Author Topic: Introducing: The Shattered Realms  (Read 1793 times)

Legacy_88MPH

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2013, 07:17:13 pm »


               Pstemarie! Yes, we love our Q. '<img'> Thanks for the well wishes, and we look forward to seeing you. Magical Master, we're gonna be switching forums soon, sorry for that inconvenience. '<img'>
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Solus1290

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2013, 05:08:20 am »


               The new forums can be found at

http://www.tsr-nwn.com/forum
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Solus1290

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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2013, 09:33:34 pm »


               This server's still going strong! We've added several active new DMs to the team who are running fun plots, and we've been very aggressive about quickly fixing bugs as they are discovered. So there's never been a better time to check it out, or give it another shot!
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Gregor Wyrmbane

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2013, 04:23:23 pm »


               

ImperialGenocide wrote...

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(TL; DR) All in all, I am not fond of this server, as I feel it is flat and has taken far too much from other servers and people without putting in enough work of its own. I also feel it is a social server, which is more used for SRP (sexual role-play), instead of the advertised role-play. I feel as though the server is too hard to get started in and too easy to level afterwards, from dying to overpowered spawns to being forced down a linier dialogue to near-instant leveling when just trying to gain a few gold pieces. The staff does not make enough of an effort to control their player base or the inevitable trolls and the players are unfriendly if their requests of private role-play is turned down.


Although I did read the entire review, I didn't feel it neccessary to post it all again.

Thanks to ImperialGenocide for taking the time to write and post this review. I don't care for SRP, and life is too short to have to deal with trolls. I think servers should be easy in the early stages, and get progressively more difficult. Not the other way around. I'll probably skip this server unless and until the staff can make some changes. 

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Legacy_Skraaaj

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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2013, 05:23:32 pm »


               

Gregor Wyrmbane wrote...

ImperialGenocide wrote...

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(TL; DR) All in all, I am not fond of this server, as I feel it is flat and has taken far too much from other servers and people without putting in enough work of its own. I also feel it is a social server, which is more used for SRP (sexual role-play), instead of the advertised role-play. I feel as though the server is too hard to get started in and too easy to level afterwards, from dying to overpowered spawns to being forced down a linier dialogue to near-instant leveling when just trying to gain a few gold pieces. The staff does not make enough of an effort to control their player base or the inevitable trolls and the players are unfriendly if their requests of private role-play is turned down.


Although I did read the entire review, I didn't feel it neccessary to post it all again.

Thanks to ImperialGenocide for taking the time to write and post this review. I don't care for SRP, and life is too short to have to deal with trolls. I think servers should be easy in the early stages, and get progressively more difficult. Not the other way around. I'll probably skip this server unless and until the staff can make some changes. 

Gregor


I found the review rather helpful as well, I wonder why it was removed?
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Gregor Wyrmbane

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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2013, 07:03:49 pm »


               

Skraaaj wrote...

I found the review rather helpful as well, I wonder why it was removed?


I've seen this type of reaction before on PW servers. It means that the moderator who removed the post is personally and/or emotionaly involved. The "proper" response, if the post had been consdidered a "flame",  would have been to leave the posts intact and lock the thread. The moderator chose not to do that and  instead removed the post and left the thread open. Inappropriate response by the moderator.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2013, 07:57:12 pm »


               I'm guessing Gregor and Skraaaj are both alt accounts/sockpuppets of ImperialGenocide, but anyway - a bunch of ImperialGenocide's posts were removed by Bioware for child solicitation, deliberate trolling, and plagiarism. I highly doubt that Bioware incorporated was personally and/or emotionally involved, and perhaps more to the point ImperialGenocide directly admitted that the posts were troll posts.
               
               

               


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Legacy_Athain

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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2013, 01:57:15 am »


               ImperialGenocide is a disgruntled former colleague of some of the staff with a few bones to pick.  He never even played on TSR.  His review, whether you found it helpful or not, was wholly a work of fiction designed to harm TSR by his own admission here and on more private channels, and not an honest and well-intentioned critique.

Give the server a try before you discount it.  I don't play there as much as most of the community, but from my experience it's a relaxed, casual, fun place to play and RP.  Don't let a malicious review by a guy I personally know to be, even now, attempting to destroy the server for reasons of his own small pettiness, turn you off from what could potentially be a fun experience.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Gregor Wyrmbane

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2013, 03:29:35 am »


               

Solus1290 wrote...

I'm guessing Gregor and Skraaaj are both alt accounts/sockpuppets of ImperialGenocide


I can't speak for Skraaaj, but that would be an incorrect guess for my part. I've been on these forums since not long after they opened, and I was on the old forums from 2006 until they went belly up. I believed the review to be honest and sincere, and based my responses on that belief. And I still hold that the correct response to flames and trolls is to leave the posts intact and lock the thread. Opinions vary.

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Legacy_MagicalMaster

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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2013, 04:11:16 am »


               I'll concur with Gregor - I've seen him posting elsewhere, he's legitimate, and I also believed the review was sincere initially.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Skraaaj

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2013, 05:56:52 am »


               Well I'm not Gregor, and MagicalMaster's profile page shows some major activity and this account was made a long long time back in 2010. I'm just a guy looking for a new server after coming back to the game after a few years of absence to play various MMO's like SWTOR. So not sure what the fuss is over O.O.
               
               

               


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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2013, 07:18:58 am »


               Yeah, I honestly haven't bothered to pay attention to this thread lately.

I think it's time to accept the possibility that negative feedback actually is a thing. '<img'>
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Aelis Eine

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« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2013, 04:00:48 am »


               

ImperialGenocide wrote...

*snipped all the details*

(TL; DR) All in all, I am not fond of this server, as I feel it is flat and has taken far too much from other servers and people without putting in enough work of its own. I also feel it is a social server, which is more used for SRP (sexual role-play), instead of the advertised role-play. I feel as though the server is too hard to get started in and too easy to level afterwards, from dying to overpowered spawns to being forced down a linier dialogue to near-instant leveling when just trying to gain a few gold pieces. The staff does not make enough of an effort to control their player base or the inevitable trolls and the players are unfriendly if their requests of private role-play is turned down.


I've taken a look at the server myself so here's my take on the points raised in this review:

Originality

The server has roots in a social server called Isles of Styss, and has a staff team hailing from various RP servers. So as far as originality goes, there will obviously be some inspiration taken from other places. Overall the server doesn't feel plagiarized, and I commend the use of custom PrCs and other customizations and the decision to draw from Warhammer rather than the usual D&D.

At the same time though, I don't find it particularly innovative for a 2013 server. Many character builds still go down the same path as they did back in 2005 when HotU was released. The cut-and-paste job is also quite obvious as there are some issues with 2das. For example, weapon buffs cannot be targeted on the offhand, but casting the spell on the character only buffs the weapon in the main hand. This seems to be an issue carried over from Styss 2das where weapon buffs were changed to buff weapons in both hands.

Social / SRP

I actually haven't found the place to be overtly "Social" - certainly it has its roots in a social server and there are accommodations made for PCs to get it on. However, the very big turnoffs of Social that plagued the original Styss and currently plagues a certain very populated Social server today, like excessively sexual bios and various sexually themed creatures making overt advances in town, are absent. So there's a bit more discretion than the usual social server.

Difficulty

Have to agree the start is very hard, then difficulty becomes trivial in the epic levels. This is more of an NWN issue than a server specific issue though - I started a thread on this a year ago. At the start, characters are sorely lacking in options, but as they level, they can build for more instant win tools, and as long as they have a tool that works on the mob in question, the content will be trivial.

What might make it more obvious on this server though, is that levelling is so fast that something can be tough at first, but after 5 minutes of killing them you get a new spell or ability and can start farming them easily. And then they give good XP returns for the next 8 levels or so.

Requests for Private RP

Never requested for private RP, wouldn't know. However I will note that the main city area is very often a ghost town and it can be hard to run into people.

Other Issues not raised in review

The gear grind in this game is very very bad due to the loot system. Loot chests are the main source of good item drops, and you have to cross your fingers and pray that the stars align to give you a decent drop, because all loot is randomized - an item with 2 correct stat boosts may not give AC, an item that gives good AC might not have stat boosts, or boost the wrong stats, e.g. +6 Int and +6 Cha on a chainmail, which very few builds will find practical. Or not enough of the desired stat. This is exacerbated by the fact that loot chests are heavily farmed, and will more often than not be on cooldown by someone else opening it a few minutes before you.

My advice is to play a build that can self-buff, like Monk/Cleric, so that it can cover gaps in the flaky item generator.

Conclusion

So overall, I'd say at this stage the server is a rough diamond. It shows promise in some areas and does try to create a mature RP environment that is not overtly SRP-oriented and introduce some new ideas. However, its execution is not perfect, and it could use some polish in a few areas.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2013, 10:48:12 pm »


               I'm sorry, but I HAVE to post. This server is great! The haks are fantastic. The music is just as great, and the areas are beautiful. This server has such a helpful, professional, and simply impressive community!