NWPAD - June 18 - July 3, 2012

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               BtB explains it here as well:
http://nwpad.weebly....he-winners.html
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_BelowTheBelt]

               As an update, ACD and I are finalizing the list of winners and will release it either later today or tomorrow! Stay tuned and let your players know to look to www.nwpad.weebly.com for their names!

We'll post the logins there and here for you to use to update your in-game signs/forums.

As some early results preview without spoiling anything:

• Great Participation: Over 210 people participated in the world walker challenge across the 9 worlds
  
  
• Frequent Participation: With 16 days of the event, the average number of check-ins per participant was 12!
  
  
• Competitive Participation: There were another 10 participants within 3 check-ins of making the winner's list (...and subsequently completely wrecking our prizing structure, but we could've handled that)

Thanks to ACD for his number-crunching prowess in record time!
               
               

               

                     Modifié par BelowTheBelt, 16 juillet 2012 - 07:43 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_BelowTheBelt]

               And the winners of the 2012 Neverwinter Nights Player Appreciation Days World Walker Challenge are:








wait for it....











*Unsealing the envelope*












*Dramatic pause for effect*















Grand World Walker Champion: Nappi99
World Walker Explorer: gelmar
World Walker Scout: Lyme_gg
World Walker Scout: Black Crowe
World Walker Adventurer: Ramir Thel
World Walker Adventurer: ZenBlade
World Walker Adventurer: Deege
World Walker Adventurer: I await You in the End
World Walker Traveler: Ramana Jala
World Walker Traveler: Rayven Nightkind
World Walker Traveler: Masterwalker
Each line is one winner.  As you see, there are 11 winners because we had ties for various spots (2-way tie for 3rd/4th place, 4-way tie for 5-8th spot and 3-way tie for 9-10th spot.  Pursuant to the official rules, we sought to rank the final three into highest number of average worlds visited, but that again yielded a tie.  Thus, all three are winners.  
If we run into issues with handing out codes, I will reserve one of the codes that was previously designated for a PW and give it to the player.

Please post these logins in-game with congratuations from the NWPAD team.  To redeem for a free download code of NWN Diamond, players must make contact with one of your staff.  Your staff must then verify the CD key associated with the winning login.  Then get their e-mail address.  Send their login name, their CD Key info, and their e-mail to me for verification.  I will send out the DL code or get back to you if there's an issue.

If a winning player decides to redeem for an in-game prize in your world, let me know that as well.  I will provide you with your own DL code that you can keep or distribute to your own playerbase in your own player appreciation/recruiting events.

Congrats to these winners.  Congrats to NWN for 10 years of excellence.  Congrats to all the people who made this event possible - those who's worlds participated (Admins and DMs), those who contributed their voices here to make this event better than I imagined it, and those who helped make it happen (especially ACD).  And, thanks to GOG.com for supporting the NWN community.

[EDIT:  nwpad.weebly.com has been updated with the winning info.  You can direct your players there.]
               
               

               

                     Modifié par BelowTheBelt, 19 juillet 2012 - 07:47 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_BelowTheBelt]

               Please hold on releasing these names as we validate the data and the handling of a specific check-in issue.

All clear.  This is the approved list.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par BelowTheBelt, 17 juillet 2012 - 11:15 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               Congratz to all the winners, and a hearty thanks to BtB and ACD for all their hard work putting this together.

Cheers,
Laz
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Doomsayer 2]

               Before I go any further, I apologize to BtB that I screwed up your poll.
But I believe that right evaluation of the winning rankings and its deserving prizes comes first.

Now, I think it is time to reveal terrible and scandalous secret that was only suspicion so far.
I am one of the 8 players who are “World Walker Scout”, we, 8 players do not know each other and use same CD key.

How is that possible? Our CD key we share(Public CD key: QC4PQ3UL) is one of the most wild spread CD key on the internet. If there is any difference between this CD key from others on the internet is that users of this CD key had good standing and it wasn’t banned on many servers.

Logically speaking, what are the chances that 8 players have the same public CD key? Perhaps chest open log will show that some of them are obtained with impossible interval between servers, etc.

As much as I want to get in-game prizes, I cannot ignore the players who worked harder than me to get their chests. We do not deserve the honor of being listed as winners and I wish to withdraw from this event.

Once again I am sorry, BtB that I caused so much trouble during this event as a representer of 8 accounts.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Doomsayer 2, 18 juillet 2012 - 01:07 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_BelowTheBelt]

               Doomsayer,

Thanks for your honest accounting.  As a community-led initiative spanning multiple worlds with volunteers and imperfect measurement devices, NWPAD and the World Walker Challenge could never ensure 100% validity.  We don't have access to the tools or resources to do so.

The event largely ran on the trust and honor of the participants (both the server and the players).  I'm happy with how the community has responded and conducted themselves.  I applaud your clarifying remarks - further demonstration that the NWN community is the best in the world.

The issue of CD Keys is not one that NWPAD is going to touch.  The Challenge used it because as the time, it was considered the best representation of a unique player, while multiple logins are common.  I don't think any of us contemplated that there were dupe keys that circulated with any great frequency.  It is what it is and we can move forward with this new information.

Given this, we will have to reassess the methodology by which we count check-ins.  Looking over the list of winners, there are only a couple of CD Keys/winning accounts that are affected by multiple logins.  We will re-sort the list based on individual CD Key/Login combinations.  This will affect the standings, as there were a number of logins that were just shy of making the top 10.  At least 1 of those will likely become a winner. 

This issue was raised by a participating admin and I thank him for that.  At the time, we quickly looked into the issue, clarified our tabulation logic, and I decided that, in my estimation (wrongly), the likelihood was small that these were different logins (especially given that a couple of the login names are similar).

Again, thanks to both for helping to identify and confirm the issue.  It is through efforts such as these that we can ensure the World Walker Challenge is the most fair and serves to achieve its purpose of strengthening and reinforcing the NWN community. 

Obviously, hold off on announing any winners as we resort the list.  I will make updates to www.nwpad.weebly.com

Stay tuned.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par BelowTheBelt, 18 juillet 2012 - 03:20 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               Hey Doom,
I just wanted to say it was brave, and noble of you to come forward.

I also want to point out there are a few reasons why people may use publicly available CD keys. Not the least of which is the fact that the game is over 10 years old, and hanging on to game manuals (and subsequently CD keys) for over 10 years is not always possible. Thankfully I have not had to deal with this (I still have mine, although in tatters), but I don't imagine it is easy to retrieve them from Bioware (if it is even possible at all any more.) Hence the easiest (and possibly only) recourse many people have in that situation is to pull one off the net.

Now, unfortunately due to this, we have 2 imperfect methods of tallying winners for this event. The first way, which BtB and ACD presented initially, was good in that it ensured the same person using multiple player names (but the same CD key) would not be able to win more than once. But as we have seen it has also resulted in different people being grouped together, altering the real result. The second method, which I believe they are working on now, is to break up the counts by both cd key and player name. This could mean however that the same person could potentially win twice.

Given that, and in the spirit of camaraderie, I would hope any such player who after the recount, finds themselves to be a multiple winner, would inform BtB, and only redeem their prize for their highest winning standing, and give up their other winnings to the next lowest winner. Which might mean an additional winner or 2 may be added to the list after the recount results are released. We are all just a group of gamers, with a common interest (nwn 1), and I have faith that any such players who find them selves in this situation, will do the right thing and share their winnings.
Laz
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Lazarus Magni, 18 juillet 2012 - 06:55 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Nappi]

               I'm pretty sure that no one but me has the same cd-key. As it is the one that came with the game, and I have not given it to anybody. When the competition was announced, I downloaded all the haks and custom content needed to log in to all the worlds that were in this. I then proceeded to log on in to them all, but didn't even found the chest/check in board in most of them. I checked in almost daily to three worlds that had the check in chest/sign. Whether that was enough to win or not, I don't know. But it wasn't that much of a hassle anyhow, just two worlds beyond WoC, that I play in any case almost daily.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               Honestly I am not really even sure how the public CD key thing works, or if they are truly unique. But regardless it should not matter any more now that those with the same key aren't getting grouped together. Hopefully the final results can be released soon. I already have people on my PW asking (actually they have been for a little while now.)
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Doomsayer 2]

               More information can be found here.
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/CD_key
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_acomputerdood]

               yeah, the CD key is only 8 characters long, generated by taking a subset of the unique CD key for the game.  it's completely reasonable that there would be collisions.  i didn't expect there to be so many in such a small dataset that we had.

but no worries.  simple problem to overcome.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_BelowTheBelt]

               Alrighty, folks.  Thanks for your patience.  ACD and I have resorted the winner's list in light of the new information and I have updated the winner's list on the previous page.

Also, www.nwpad.weebly.com has been updated to reflect these winners.

Congrats to all the winners and participants!
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               Glad to see this final (hopefully) result. TY so much NWPAD team, cheers to the participants, and CG to the winners. I will be updating the Av3 Forums, and in game sign accordingly as soon as I can.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_PerXX82]

               This looks like an awesome event!
I wish I'd signed my own server (Dragon Myrth) up for this, had I seen it in time.

For those that participated: was this enough of a success for it to perhaps be set up for a recurring event, maybe once every few months or so?
If something like this were to happen again, I'd certainly be very interested!