Low amount of euro players....and getting lower

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               What can we do?


- Do the US servers admins understand euro-culture?

- Less DM event driven?

- Less RP focus?

- Actively recruit euro-players and staff?


What more?

I know some might think this is not a big deal....but I wanted to get it out...

In the end a drop in euro players undermines the servers as 24/7 servers and the whole game...

Mostly I am talking about RP:ish servers....which are the bulk of servers/players altogether...
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 07 novembre 2011 - 02:53 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_NWN DM]

               The time zone difference might have something to do with it with respect to not having a DM available to run anything.

But I'm approaching this from the perspective of DM presence being essential.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               As far as Czech players majority of them is playing on czech-only servers (see czech server status http://neverwinter.c...=Players_Online (btw Demona 2 is a NWN2 module in progress. Only Arkhalia and Kandelabria 1 are action servers rest is either RP or HCRP) which is caused not only becasuse time zone but mainly because of language. Since majority of them plays roleplaying, the felt they wouldnt be able to play it that well on the english speaking modules on gamespy or they are simply too comfortable to even try, they have there everything they need. Actioners are playing either on Arkhalia (loot server where I am WB) or Kandelabria 1 which is faction pvp oriented. The rest is playing on various english modules like HG, 3T but they are not many.

So majority of them was never interested in english roleplaying modules and never will be.

I think that the same situation is in Russia where is that Axistown a module of virusman. But I dont know details.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 07 novembre 2011 - 06:10 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               NWN DM,
well yes...the timezone is one of the culprits...there are many ways to fight this problem though...some of which I already mentioned...

Personally I don't need a DM to play and as I mentioned I think it can sometimes be a problem if you are always waiting for a DM....especially in a timezone where you might even not have players...

Shadoow,
yes what you mention is also a big thing. I think there are like Czeck, Polish, Spanish, French and German servers....of which the first three are probably largest in amount and players (?).

It is a shame but I can understand it at the same time.

The language is a mayor thing on roleplay servers.

What I am talking about are euro-players reaching out to mostly US servers and there might be more barriers than the language itself...because most of the players who do that HAVE good english.

I am Swedish for example...and my english is acceptable I think :-P
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               

SuperFly_2000 wrote...

 I think there are like Czeck, Polish, Spanish, French and German servers....of which the first three are probably largest in amount and players (?).

Can't say, I have no informations about other language-specific servers.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Zarathustra217]

               It's hard to say where people are, now with the master server is down, but I know that there's for long been both rather active Italian and Spanish servers too. And I know that we suffer from less activity during those periods as well (only about 20 compared to 40+ in US prime time, meaning less than half). It's even worse in the Australian/Asian time zone.

On the other hand, on all the roleplay servers I've been involved with, it has always been like that since game launch, even if less pronounced. It could just be due to generally more NWN players in North America? Paired with a general decline in players, of course. At some point, the count will get so low in certain periods that people will just abandon playing it during those hours altogether, since chances are slim of meeting someone else to play with.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Zarathustra217, 07 novembre 2011 - 08:32 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Jenna WSI]

               Since we reopened, WSI gets 5-10 people on in euro times (1pm EST for my zone) and for a while, it was our busiest time period... but lately it's picked up at night too. We have DMs for both time zones, but I think it's more just one person logs in, then they bring a friend, and snowball effect.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               I wonder how many people have gone LAN. I know in my neighborhood (US mind you) we have a router setup just for "LAN" play - we all live close enough that we can log into the network and play over LAN. None of has an interest in anymore in PW servers that lack DMs for guidance or just even some semblance of a cooperative atmosphere.

Of course we're all 40-something gits that just want to left alone once a week so we can drink beer and roleplay. Truth be told we'd probably prefer actual face-to-face pnp, but then people would have to see my ugly mug for a few hours '>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Zarathustra217]

               I wonder how much of it is influenced by the master server being down though. NWN PWs with their sort of mini-MORPG setup have always suffered from the fact that attracting activity requires already having some degree of activity - something low activity hours are much more prone to suffer from. One should not disregard the value of the gamespy chat in game either -  it had some communicative function that I think may easily be underestimated.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_PlasmaJohn]

               We're US based and seem to have a fairly active Euro population.  Part of that is a self assembled group that picks one of our dungeons to adventure through during EU evenings.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_shadowsallaround]

               Or perhaps most of the dms from every server have banned the hell out of all or most of the European players that there just isn't much players left to be had from that part of the world.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_kalbaern]

               

shadowsallaround wrote...

Or perhaps most of the dms from every server have banned the hell out of all or most of the European players that there just isn't much players left to be had from that part of the world.

Very doubtful a reason. Most PWs have very few bans on players. Its a rare and thankfully small number that ever actually get banned.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_shadowsallaround]

               Oh cool.  Hop onto the roleplay servers and start roleplaying that your a child of night and live to worship the moon.  Let's see how far you get before the ban treatment.  Or play the drunkard on the streets of amia or anphilla genesis whether cleaven or axfell or even on the streets of nordock.  Or talk about God on some of those social servers and get banned when others are swearing or making fun of others.  Or let's get banned on stormnexus because they just don't like your build.  Do you see now the anger I hold against dms?  I won't even get to the details of some of the others unless I am provoked too.  Let's just say for now it is a secret.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par shadowsallaround, 12 novembre 2011 - 12:47 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_shadowsallaround]

               I won't name names or say who it was but one particular group went as far as turning me in to my job and reporting me for being on their website while at work.  They went as far as finding out my jobs number and calling them to report me in a failed attempt to get me fired.  Welcome to nwn.  A place where even the admins go as far as trying to get you fired at your job.  You can only find it there on your wonderful nwn servers.  The one and only wonderful dms and admins to turn you in to your job in an attempt to get you fired.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par shadowsallaround, 12 novembre 2011 - 10:18 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               It is true that I already seen or rather read (on that PW forum) that many players get (usually temporary in these cases) BAN for OOC like begging for ress via tell or abusing OOC informations like enemy character level or for playing somehow differently than module creator intented, that is powerplaying, maximizing experiences gain or constantly looting treasures or PK. BUT then is a question what such player doing on those servers anyway. These servers have some ruleset in there and if player doesn't agree with them he can't expect they treat him well. It seems to me shadowsallaround that you are intentionally roleplaying something you know its forbidden or not appropriate. Then stop crying and rather play normally or find a server where they allow this to you. I would be banned immediately on such servers as well if I would try to play my style there, thats why I play only modules that support my playstyle and don't care for those that do not. I suggest you the same.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 12 novembre 2011 - 01:12 .