Modern Zombie Survival 2

[Legacy_NWN DM]

               And the RL "drama" raises it's ugly head again....
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Asmius]

               Wids is Rhodes on MZS2. Just for the record.

I was banned permanently for 'multiple violation upon violation' without an explanation of what these things were, and I doubt Skeet properly posted my goodbye message, so here it is.

Quote: "I have been addicted to this server since I was ten, in late 2009.

The concept and people here led me to create an account on the forums: Verin. I was banned for several issues, however, I was never banned on the forum, and after the host changed 20,000 times I was allowed to log back on as my new persona, Elsworth. I turned eleven September 16th, 2010 and ever since have been having problems here.

I have had remote access to the staff forums (Nice eye, Zebora and Rhodes.) and have for about a month now. Nobody contacted me saying I was in trouble, Skeet. I mean, honestly. You have a foreign fifteen year old who just finished middle school, and 14 and a month year old (Torry), and Drakaden, who's myspace page is under "Drakaden"....

I'm not asking to come back here, and it saddens me that I probably won't ever, but to be honest, thank you so much, Skeet. Your people here have helped me so much. Pax, before he left. Jedisauce, amidst the whole InvalidOpinion ride and being cool about my age.

I just want you and everyone to know that I'm not a psychopath (and I forgive you, Drak, for that) and sincerely love everyone that plays here. I know people will throw parties (Rhodes and Drakaden, namely), but that doesn't matter. My opinion has not and will not ever change: I was here to do TWO THINGS: Have fun, and make the game funner for others.

I was really getting better, you know. I was. As an eleven-year old, I don't have much experience or the know-how to act like an adult. It's not impossible, but I'm just not mature enough.

I just want you all to know that I sincerely love all of you guys for either making this wonderful server or playing it, and for you to all know why I was the way I am, and how I knew the things I knew.

It's been good,
Elsy

P.S. Tell Drakaden good fight, if you will!"
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Skeet112]

               I'd counter that argument, to those that would actually log into the server, and check things out.  You'll find that the DM team is friendly and normally willing to help out anybody that needs something.  What you -won't- find however, is a staff that is gonna hold your hand, pamper your ass, and tell you that everything is going to be alright.  We are a mature (18+) gaming community, and we're not here to deal with anybody's drama.    

This is probably the main reason that people become unwelcome to the server.   As you can see, on occasion we will ban people.  (Asmius, after a 30 post discussion of multiple violations including transferring items and harassing other players)... and it's no surprise that as soon as we ban them from the forums, HERE THEY COME BUDDY!  Right to this little spot here.

Which only furthers my point I think?

MZS2 doesn't need the drama, nor the pissy attitudes.    

If you want to sit here and try and convince people not to play, simply because your attitude doesn't fly with the community, then that is overtly your decision.   But don't expect for a second to be welcome in the community either, because those are 'exactly' the attitudes that we are trying to keep out here in social bioware land, and OUT of our land.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Chass]

               I have played on this server a while back.  I'm a heavy roleplayer and I did appreciate the time I spent there a while back. The only reason I played was the 'mature' atmosphere and the setting. I did sign into the forums but never viewed it much.

Gameplay was awsome. loved the scripting.
The players I did play with I did enjoy the time spent with them.

I do recommend you join in for the mature atmosphere at least. i'm a heavy scripter and I was impressed with the scripting there on some of those zombies and use on atmosphere.  I dont think I played with the people who complained. (nor do I remember account names like I used to).

Give it a shot and try it for yourself
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Arinoch]

               I'm mostly amazed how well Asmius writes for an eleven year old. Seriously. Impressive.

But still, for the sake of conversation, I should add to the discussion:

Skeet112 wrote...
What you -won't- find however, is a staff that is gonna hold your hand, pamper your ass, and tell you that everything is going to be alright. We are a mature (18+) gaming community, and we're not here to deal with anybody's drama.

If you could address my issues as well, that would be great for potential future players. In relation to your above post, for example, "not hand holding/ass pampering" shouldn't include replying to player questions, even if they're new players, with regards to pretty important story points. As I wrote above, yes, there's always the FOIG reply, but any reply would have been preferable to none at all.

Also for reference to other forum posters, my PMed question/comments to Skeet had been:

"I figured I'd PM because the last new guy who posted about "everyone around seemed to be a tough guy" publicly was kind of scolded. I've only been on once, so I'm not going to repeat that. You seem to be the DM who knows what's going on, based on the forum, so I just had a quick question about the factions.

I was on last night and there was all kinds of talk about IRA and SAS. I asked the DM who was on at the time and he wasn't very informative; he just kind of danced around the detail and said "the SAS are bad because they look like this!" and spawned a soldier that looked like the Helghast from Killzone. '>

Is there an actual IC reason for the IRA and SAS to a) be in the United States, and be fighting each other in this one city when there's probably plenty of other cities to move on to, let alone the zombie outbreak that might make people forgive/forget?

I'm new and don't have a lot of playtime anyway, but it was a bit jarring to play an intelligent character who has some concept of history and have no one explain what was going on. It was equally jarring to be following people who thought it made perfect sense to melee-attack zombies like it was nothing, as well...but my char chalked that up to crazy. '>"

Mature atmosphere is great, and it's what I look for in games these days, but without mature RP backing the atmosphere up, it breaks the immersion considerably. Again, though, I was only around for a week, so my experience could be highly skewed from the norm. As Chass said, the scripting, general setting, and building is quite good, especially considering it's modding a medieval-based game.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Skeet112]

               @ Arinoch, sorry I missed your PM.  I'm a busy guy, as you could imagine.

I'm actually the wrong person to answer any questions about the IRA and their presence.  The DM you should ask is Zebora.   If he cannot give you a valid answer, then I don't know who can because he runs that faction.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Arinoch]

               Thanks - I'll do so if I ever manage to find enough free time to play a second PW again.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_zunath]

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                     Modifié par zunath, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:03 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_PowderdJedi433]

               What to say about MZS2...

Let's start with the good things.  The player base is nice, the people are good people, I always enjoyed RPing there.  The scripting is neat, and the module is interesting to look at.

The biggest problem with MZS2 is their staff.

The MZS2 staff are like bullies on a playground.  They want to be kings of their little empire, and that's all fine well and good - but they're willing to push away and get rid of quality RPers that question their flawed logic.  Alot of the things the DMs do don't make any sense, and when you ask them what they are doing or why they are doing it, they assume you're backtalking and you get punished for it.

Say, I was RPing a certain storyline for 4 months or a little more, and the team suddenly comes to me (after four months of them supporting my storyline) and says that my RP is invalid, that my story never made any sense, and that I should have known better than to do it in the first place.

They are not impartial, they are not neutral or objective - if they dislike you OOC, you should full well expect to get screwed over IC, and then when you argue with them about what happened you'll end up banned.

tl;dr this server would be epic if it had a better team, but until the management changes, it isn't worth playing.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_PowderdJedi433]

               Oh!  On a side note - the DM team, after my banning, has still been talking about me.  To a point that they have done google searches on my screen name, and found a TS/TV profile that matches my screen name - and all of them are having a nice, gut-busting guffaw over it.

Now, I don't care one bit about that - I have nothing to hide.  I'm proud of enjoying what I enjoy.  But the fact that they're sitting around in the DM forums gossipping about it means that my point is proven more and more - the staff is immature and ridiculous.  If all they can talk about is how I have a profile on a TS/TV dating website, they certainly aren't the kind of DM team I'd want to play with.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Wids]

               PowderdJedi433 is conveniently omitting the part where he spent months making himself the staff's mortal enemy and trying to make them miserable.  And why?  Because the team permabanned him after he threw one too many temper tantrums and threatened and cussed out various members of the DM team...an absolute no-no in any server's book.

He throws grand mal temper tantrums when he doesn't get his way and he's in poor control of his emotions; one of our DMs is still receiving death threats from this cat (and saving them for future reference) weeks after PowderdJedi got banned for the first time.  The DM Team strives to be fair in relation and in judgement to everyone, even the occasional griefer or lamer.  But if you could just see all of what acts of aggression PowderdJedi has committed over the past few months...even Jesus and Gandhi might not be able to maintain their stoic composure with this guy.

So in closing, take PowderdJedi's testimony with a very small grain of salt.  The server's unique and remarkable, and the DM Team's very down-to-earth and approachable.  And one angry kid on a mission of ill-founded revenge isn't going to change any of that.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Wids, 12 août 2011 - 11:17 .