Is Your Script a Part of a Compilation Without Your Permission?

[Legacy_kamal_]

               

I'm pretty sure Kamal only mentioned that lawyers had been involved in one of these cases to provide evidence in response to Ehye_khandee's challenge that only the word of a lawyer would convince him that authors have these rights.  I don't believe it was to threaten anyone.

That is correct. Just because someone was a user of the IGN vault in that they downloaded something from it does not give them the right to repost the work willy nilly around the internet. I am a big backer of the community Vault, and I'm also big on respecting author's wishes.


If Tarot wants his/her stuff removed from the "all nwn1 scripts" package that was made as part of the old vault scrape, then Tarot can ask the Vault admins to do so. I have no doubt they would comply with the request based on their conversations with content authors on the vault forums.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_kamal_]

               

BTW I was serious about removing my stuff from RoloVault (as opposed to NeverwinterVault) if you need to save space sometime. Also I was in error when I said you'd save 100 MB of space- I did a rough quick tally and it's actually over 250 MB (no I am not bragging - it's just some of them use really big textures).

 

TR

Not to worry, iirc rolovault is a 4TB drive and I'm sure it would make him super happy if it was filled to the brim with community made goodness.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               

Would be pretty idiotic in this time to bother to much with those "complicated issues"... the few but very inspiring newcomers shouldnt be to worried using our content but thanks for the insights anyway _kamal and tchos '>

 

And yeah Rolo knows what he is doing!

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_The Mad Poet]

               

My last word in on this, but to be honest I will never understand why people make such a fuss over this kind of thing when it comes to modded content. It's almost like some people feel that credit is currency. That if you don't get it your going to end up being thrown out on the street after losing thousands of dollars or something. It's good to respect an authors wishes despite what you may personally feel about it (for example I feel trying to restrict content with conditions is just wrong), but no one is actually getting hurt... physically or financially... since this is all just work for a game no one owns any rights to. I certainly have never been stroked a check by Bioware for anything I've done. I mean isn't the whole point of making content for people to use... is letting people use it?

 

My Policy: Don't be a jerk. Give credit where its due.

 

Jerk Policy: I'm not going out of my way for you.

 

Reality Check: Chasing after people for any 'infraction' will likely be pointless, and if its not pointless it is still a HUGE waste of my time over something trivial.

 

Really don't understand why it has to be more complicated than that. Kindergarten rules FTW!

 

Happy modding!  '>

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Proleric]

               Well, the controversial content has been removed. No surprise, as the vault generally corrects snags when people raise them, even though the OP was already content in this case. No one at any time failed to give credit. Nothing complicated happened. I for one am eternally grateful to the people at the vault who've done so much for us, and who are so willing to be flexible whenever anyone has an issue with it.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ehye_khandee]

               

That is correct. Just because someone was a user of the IGN vault in that they downloaded something from it does not give them the right to repost the work willy nilly around the internet. I am a big backer of the community Vault, and I'm also big on respecting author's wishes.


If Tarot wants his/her stuff removed from the "all nwn1 scripts" package that was made as part of the old vault scrape, then Tarot can ask the Vault admins to do so. I have no doubt they would comply with the request based on their conversations with content authors on the vault forums.

 

 

Invoke me by name and I feel compelled to respond. I would be happy to review the case in question, where are the documents available? Not all cases are the same and details matter. To change my mind all one must do, as stated prior, is provide some case law citation.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

Invoke me by name and I feel compelled to respond. I would be happy to review the case in question, where are the documents available? Not all cases are the same and details matter. To change my mind all one must do, as stated prior, is provide some case law citation.

 

Ever hear of Getty Images?

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_kamal_]

               

Invoke me by name and I feel compelled to respond. I would be happy to review the case in question, where are the documents available? Not all cases are the same and details matter. To change my mind all one must do, as stated prior, is provide some case law citation.

Here you go, specifically nwn content taken from the IGN vault and used elsewhere without permission (they also stole bandwith from the Nexus).

 

http://forum.bioware...-your-thoughts/

 

http://forums.nexusm...t-index-system/

 

Their lawyer realized they were in trouble, there was no case. There was a video apology from their CEO.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Tarot Redhand]

               

I have posted a thank you on the vault. TBH I never expected to spark a controversy on a related topic when I started this thread so can we please let it lie now.

 

TR

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ehye_khandee]

               

Ever hear of Getty Images?

Yes and several others too. Got a link to the specific item?

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               

Yes precious... GRRMBL... NO NO NO dont let it die. Let us make TROUBLE, tears and pain! Yes precious '>

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ehye_khandee]

               

Here you go, specifically nwn content taken from the IGN vault and used elsewhere without permission (they also stole bandwith from the Nexus).

 

http://forum.bioware...-your-thoughts/

 

http://forums.nexusm...t-index-system/

 

Their lawyer realized they were in trouble, there was no case. There was a video apology from their CEO.

 

Except that this 26 page long thread is not at all related to what is going on here. neverwintervault.org is doing none of the things that this 'gmod' was doing.

 

CASE LAW is what I seek as a link, not 26 pages of amateur arguments over an unrelated server doing dissimilar things.

 

Lawyer? where in the thread is a lawyer? If it is in there can you link to that page please? I  did not see one (but I did not read all 26 pages of amateur debate). Is there a relationship you see between these two situations neverwinternights.org and this gmod?

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

Yes and several others too. Got a link to the specific item?

 

I assume you can take it from here.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Tchos]

               

I assume you can take it from here.

 

I thought you were talking about AFP v. Morel, where someone's uploaded content was redistributed by a user who incorrectly thought that the TOS that required that the users grant the site and its associates the right to redistribute, also granted those same rights to common users.

 

 

(Awaiting goal posts to be relocated)

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

And then there is Getty vs. Microsoft; settled out of court, but still about redistribution via Bing.