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Legacy_SKIPPNUTTZ

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Divine Grace + Dark Blessing: Overflowing Saves
« on: April 17, 2014, 01:18:39 pm »


               

Has anyone found a method to stop these two feats from stacking together? Our realm rewards +2 to an ability score every 25 levels(bonus lvls after 40 from xp), and CHA based characters can overflow their saves really easily with these feats. I've warned the players because im confident that there isnt a workaround, but figured I would ask here.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_MagicalMaster

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 03:33:47 pm »


               

Perhaps a silly question, but have you considered simply applying a penalty to saving throws to keep it from overflowing?



               
               

               
            

Legacy_SKIPPNUTTZ

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 03:39:54 pm »


               

Guess that could be done in the rest and client enter events. Hasnt presented a problem yet, but I just determined it was possible so I was looking for a fix '<img'>


Thanks for the idea, probably the only way to do it. Can you apply more than -20 saves though? Or is their a hardcap like positive saves of +20?



               
               

               
            

Legacy_Shadooow

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 04:19:57 pm »


               

nwnx and function RemoveFeat '<img'>



               
               

               
            

Legacy_Shadooow

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 04:26:13 pm »


               

it could be done without nwnx as well using haks - but there is a small problem with already existing characters that would need to be edited manually (though letoscript would help to make this with easy).


 


To do it, you would need to create a new feat with same name etc. that you would switch to BG for the original Dark Blessing. And unless character has a paladin levels you would gave a original dark blessing on the character skin.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_MagicalMaster

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2014, 02:38:50 am »


               

Did some testing, appears to be a cap of -20.  This is a hard cap -- so if you give +20 to all saves and then -40 to all saves you wind up at 0 difference (20 - 20).  Probably need another solution if you're going over by at least 20.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_Lazarus Magni

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2014, 03:17:58 am »


               

As of today (after over 10 years of our worlds existence) this has not been a problem for a single player in our world. I do believe if it ever becomes one there is a way around it, like those mentioned above.


               
               

               
            

Legacy_FunkySwerve

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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2014, 05:37:39 am »


               

NWNX Defenses allows you to set min/max alignments to benefit from these feats:


 


    SetDefenseOption(NWNX_DEFENSES_OPT_PALADIN_SAVES_MIN_ALIGN_GE,      70);

    SetDefenseOption(NWNX_DEFENSES_OPT_BLACKGUARD_SAVES_MAX_ALIGN_GE,   30);


 


 


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Legacy_Lazarus Magni

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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2014, 12:21:54 am »


               

Thanks Funky.