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Legacy_The Mad Poet

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 09:11:31 pm »


               

It's also one of the reasons I've never liked making spells match the PnP versions perfectly. Sometimes it's better to leave those 1 hour/level just as they are.


 




Yes, PnP XP is much higher than NWN, mainly because a battle can last a long time, and you are facing DM AI vs Computer AI, so monsters rarely act "stupid" & rarely do things that are irrational. '<img'>  (A huge difference)




 


Absolutely. In PnP orcs and goblins don't get stuck against the furniture when charging you.  '<img'>  At least not orcs... maybe goblins. If they aren't picking their nose while trying to shoot an arrow and accidently kill themselves.


 


 




Interesting comments. My motivation for giving max HP is not for dealing with mechanics so much as to improve the player's sense of agency in the game. If you know the HP you will get when choosing a particular class, then that becomes a significant part of the choice you are making. If you are not sure how much HP you'll get with particular class, it becomes a gamble that is largely out of your hands. I prefer that most of the basic stats on the character sheet be within a player's control.




 


One of the home rules I have for my PnP game is to have everyone roll 1d6 for HP. They then add the difference between 6 and whatever their normal HD are to the roll. For example having a barbarian (normally d12 HD) roll [1d6 +6 + Con modifier] for their HP. The Wizard (d6) would roll [1d6 + Con Mod], and the Rogue (d8) would roll [1d6 + 2 + Con Mod]. The reason I did this was because I liked the players having a chance for high HP, and a chance for low HP. But I didn't like the Barbarian rolling three 1's in a row... and somehow having the Wizard roll all 6's and end up with more HP. This way I just make the range of possible HP smaller, and is more in favor of the players themselves. In PnP I usually give the first three levels Max HP anyway.


 


I can understand wanting to keep those choices up to the player. That's kind of why Dice Rolling stats in d20 is fading away in favor of Point-Buy systems like in NWN. That and standardizing everyone so that every DM knows everyone has an equal chance to make a good character.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_MagicalMaster

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2014, 09:19:06 pm »


               


Interesting comments. My motivation for giving max HP is not for dealing with mechanics so much as to improve the player's sense of agency in the game. If you know the HP you will get when choosing a particular class, then that becomes a significant part of the choice you are making. If you are not sure how much HP you'll get with particular class, it becomes a gamble that is largely out of your hands. I prefer that most of the basic stats on the character sheet be within a player's control.




 


Indeed.  Imagine if a fighter rolled a d3 for skill points each level (average of 2) and a rogue rolled a d15 (average of 8).  Likewise for BAB as I mentioned above.  And it would rather stink if you play a fighter who is identical to another player's fighter (let's call him Bob) except that Bob has 20% more HP than you simply because he got better HP rolls.  Feels unfair.  No reason for you to be randomly weaker in that way.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_Pstemarie

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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 12:05:42 am »


               

I'd really like to go hardcore on this like I do in my PnP campaign where you HP is equal to your Constitution score + size modifier (I use the same size modifiers as used in combat). The CON bonus is not added to HP, its only used to modify die rolls (saves, skill checks, etc.). An unfortunate side effect is that you have to redo all the creature hit points too.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2014, 01:45:47 am »


               

Pstemarie, sounds like you are a fan of some other game systems out there. '<img'>


 


I think Top Secret moved toward stats like that from the D&D style, but I think Call of Cthulu and Rune Quest did a better job.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 10:25:16 am »


               

Yeah, my "house" rules are kind of an amalgam of many other game systems. I am currently using Pathfinder as a base, but if I see something I really like from another system I'm not shy about converting it over.