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Legacy__Guile

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« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2011, 04:57:16 am »


               

BelowTheBelt wrote...

Alright, I'm a sucker for a brick wall.  Every one I see I have to bang my head against it...

So...

Competitively Built Monsters

The idea is that a single competitively built monster is worth more than a large number of smaller monsters, both from a module resource perspective as well as a balanced-party perspective.

Lots of lower CR monsters running around uses up CPU cycles and are wiped out by the PCs.  Conversely, a Higher CR monster can destroy the PCs.  The best case is to match a monster's CR with a party/player's CR.

That's it.  That's all I got.  Well, now I've got a lump on my head, too...


As stated above Built is very close, but it is NOT the exact word...  Competitively & Monsters are not correct at all.

You are actually the first person to come close to the general message, but that's not the general message unfortunately..  You are at least looking at the general picture, comparison / results...

The comparison is a pointer to an end result, you are looking at the comparison a little differently though with Challenge Rating, though you aren't off base, CR is very much relative to what stats represents, though not exactly, stats can entail many things, but mostly it points towards the CR of a creature, indeed!  Party is NOT a factor, only one PC (the one we are comparing to the "stats" of the monster(s) in the area of the PC)

The Results is where the big picture is and how you will solve the general message...  Stats comparisons are WHY we are getting the results...

A hint, since you were very close in some aspects...

Stats are multiplied by the # of monsters, and the results are there for a reason. (e.g. if Monster(s) Stats are higher than or equal to the PC's stats, they are obviously going to be overwhelmed!)

The Major Hint:
WHY are we using these results based upon the Comparison?

The message has more to do with the results than the comparisons.  You have to do some critical thinking to solve it.
Why / Who / What / Where / When?  << Critical Questions for Thinking..  (Hint who is NOT the PC or Monsters)

The riddle is deep, it's tough, and I can't give out too much information or you guys would guess it easially... '<img'>
               
               

               


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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2011, 03:03:33 pm »


               if its at all possible, I am even more confused now then I was before so I guess I'm out of this discussion.
good luck to anyone still trying. (:
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2011, 05:27:10 pm »


               I remember some teacher once saying it's easy to make an impossible question if the answer is obvious to you.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2011, 09:49:31 pm »


               

lordofworms wrote...

I think this is a big hunk of wasted time to get someone(anyone) to keep guessing....

Guile, I am not being mean here but seriously. you should either just give us the answer (if there is even a valid one?)
I dont think anyone at this point even 'knows' what your talking about let alone try to make sense of it from a 'riddle' point of view.
like Terrorble stated...
nothin...

Oh, see, that's not very nice. There's definitely a riddle here, all right - why on earth have some many people wasted their time responding to this thread? '<img'>

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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2011, 11:37:37 pm »


               Because they just finished their studies and have to wait one and a half months for the two month summer vacation to start?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2011, 03:14:18 am »


               Call me a sucker, but I'm willing to trust that guile has something here.  Frustration and riddles go hand-in-hand.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2011, 06:05:10 am »


               yes this does seem like a nice long riddle tho im still trying to figure it out when i login to hear or reopen my web browser to social.bioware.com
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2011, 03:47:22 pm »


               Okay, I suck at riddles and I'm new to scripting but, what the heck . . .

So, you're comparing stats between the PC and the Monsters, why?, obviously if the Monsters are stronger the PC dies and vice versa and if the PC dies the module ends because without the PC there is no playing. But that is obvious and totally on the surface.

Who? If the who isn't the PC then who is it? Who does the PC represent? Good? And the monters represent evil?

Why are the results so important? Because, in the end, they are all that matter. If good defeats evil, life goes on. If evil defeats good, the world ends.

At least, that is what I see when I look at that script. That's as far as I have gotten at this point. Whether I'm on the right track or completely off in left field remains to be seen.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2011, 08:43:02 pm »


               We're actors, *points* those are hidden cameras, and you're on MTV's GENESYS beGUIL'D! ':lol:'
               
               

               


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« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2011, 09:04:27 pm »


               

pope_leo wrote...

We're actors, *points* those are hidden cameras, and you're on MTV's GENESYS beGUIL'D! ':lol:'


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« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2011, 03:52:36 am »


               

Tassle_Hof wrote...

Okay, I suck at riddles and I'm new to scripting but, what the heck . . .

So, you're comparing stats between the PC and the Monsters, why?, obviously if the Monsters are stronger the PC dies and vice versa and if the PC dies the module ends because without the PC there is no playing.
But that is obvious and totally on the surface.

Who? If the who isn't the PC then who is it? Who does the PC represent? Good? And the monters represent evil?

Why are the results so important? Because, in the end, they are all that matter. If good defeats evil, life goes on. If evil defeats good, the world ends.

At least, that is what I see when I look at that script. That's as far as I have gotten at this point. Whether I'm on the right track or completely off in left field remains to be seen.


Congratulations Tassle_Hof, you acutally have solved most of the general message...  (But not 100% of it)

It's about challenge & balance, this part you have figured out, you looked at the comparisons, drew the proper conclusion, and looked at the results and drew the proper conclusion as well...

Who though is not the PC, it's the one in control of it all...

Because you are so close, I'm actually going to declare you the winner of the general message.   Yay!  ':lol:'

The final part you are missing is Who is in control of all this & more importantly why the message is so important.

I can't tell you the complete general message till this is over, becuase it would give (CBM) away...


(Send me a private message & we will arrange your pickup/delivery of the reward)
               
               

               


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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2011, 01:59:44 pm »


               Yay for me!

So going on that I would have to determine that the 'Who' is the Creator, or the Builder so B in CBM must stand for Builder. The builder of the module is in control of setting the stats, the challange and the balance.

C and M
Creator?
Master?
Creator Builder Master?

Hmmm. Need more coffee. . .
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2011, 02:26:34 pm »


               

Tassle_Hof wrote...

Yay for me!

So going on that I would have to determine that the 'Who' is the Creator, or the Builder so B in CBM must stand for Builder. The builder of the module is in control of setting the stats, the challange and the balance.

C and M
Creator?
Master?
Creator Builder Master?

Hmmm. Need more coffee. . .


NOTE: the winner of the general message cannot win twice, so guessing CBM for you would be kind of pointless.

Builder is correct in CBM, but you do not have C & M correct,and I cannot tell you more or I'd give C & M away...

CBM is by far the hardest part to solve (everyone will more or less need to guess it & think HARD to solve it!)

Now that you know the general message is more about the builder than the PC or the Monsters, though the PC is the main interest in the script, e.g. if there are no players, then you fail....  <<< note this, as it is tied to C & M.

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I'm going to disclose the reward...

I made a special module which includes mutliple special designed systems all integrated to give a builder greater control over a unique Treasure Systems (multiple), it includes 3 special treasure systems as well, though only one is available to the general public (The Genisys Enchanting Gem System), A Final Boss Treasure System, and a General Main Boss Treasure System (for Difficult / High level bosses only)...

It also includes two item template system(s) & a scriptset for both template system(s), this uinque Item Template system affords the builder the ultimate control over all items & plot items (again 2 separate system) in the module, it prevents cheating / exploits, and can even prevent PCs from picking other PC's pockets, and even much more!  Another part of the the Item Template systems is a 2 fold special item template (premade) Legendary & Artifact items systems (complete systems that were released to the community a long time ago, but is no-long available for download.)  These systems, the module, and all of the work combined in this entire reward is over 2 months of intense work by me, so you can rest assured it's quality & very special indeed!

The other part of the reward is 2 fold, The winner(s) (2), get any customizations they want to the treasure systems &/or template systems within the module tailored to their desires.  The winner may also have any custom system that I am able to create, e.g. I will create a special custom system specfically for this builder alone, and none other.

The System(s) & Module(s) will only be available to the winners, myself, and one of my friends and will never be handed out to the community.  (Winners are not allowed to share the content either, sorry.)

Again you must message me to recieve the final reward.
               
               

               


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« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2011, 06:02:31 pm »


               Sorry, got carried away. Hate leaving puzzles unsolved, hope someone figures it out soon . . . will message you for reward, it sounds very interesting!
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2011, 01:22:11 pm »


               Creature Balance Model?


The purpose on a simple glance seems to be that you are comparing the Monster to the Player, and If the Monster is too High for the Player, it removes the monster - Hence why it is supposedly balanced.  In reality, it might actually make the whole module somewhat empty if a level 1 character just walks around, finding that his foes just vanish before his eyes, or die.

In anycase, the very last if statement in the script, would that not cause an Unknown state in Compiler error?