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Legacy_Tonden_Ockay

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Can NWN2 creatures be moved to NWN1?
« on: February 15, 2016, 08:20:43 pm »


               

Hi all


 


I was on the vault looking around and came across this NWN2 Creature Pack and thought to myself I wounder if these could be ported into NWN1?



               
               

               
            

Legacy_rjshae

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2016, 09:38:52 pm »


               

Mmm, those creatures were ported from NWN1. At least according to the description. Of course it's possible they may have been enhanced in the process.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_Tonden_Ockay

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Can NWN2 creatures be moved to NWN1?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 09:51:48 pm »


               

Ah ya I didn't read it over, I seen it was for NWN2 and just went on.


 


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Yep " This hak pack contains a set of creatures converted from NWN1 " wow to back we can't have them looking like that in NWN1 hehe.


               
               

               
            

Legacy_OldTimeRadio

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 10:05:27 pm »


               

Technically, it's possible.  Sure.  You wind up keeping the mesh and the textures and tossing the skeleton and animations, using existing ones from NWN and re-weighting the skin mesh yourself.  For instance, I did this with my Automotoi, Arabian Nights skeletons and the rhinoceros I contributed to Draygoth's mount pack.  It can take quite bit of work, though.


 


As a general rule, any mesh that you can load into 3DS Max/GMax can be exported into NWN. 


 


How well it runs and looks, though, is usually dependent on how much care went into the conversion and how good the model was to begin with. 


 


Edit: Also, NWN2 models tend to lean real heavily on their normal maps.  Most of the time I don't think they'd look that great converted to NWN 1.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_rjshae

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 10:59:09 pm »


               


Edit: Also, NWN2 models tend to lean real heavily on their normal maps.  Most of the time I don't think they'd look that great converted to NWN 1.




 


Yes, you may need to bake shadows to give the back-ported model more depth.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2016, 12:55:37 am »


               


Ah ya I didn't read it over, I seen it was for NWN2 and just went on.


 


 


Yep " This hak pack contains a set of creatures converted from NWN1 " wow to back we can't have them looking like that in NWN1 hehe.




 


The lions/tigers you put screenshots of are not nwn1 ports, they are nwn2 "native". The ones listed as Bioware, Bioware-DLA, or CODI are nwn1 converts, though Hellfire probably gave them more polys and stuff. The myconid may or may not be a port.


 


And as OTR said, you'd have to do new skeletons for them because the skeletons are not convertible.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2016, 03:53:57 am »


               

Ya well I had just ran across them while looking for animal hak packs. I was just thinking to myself that having animals that are less blocky in NWN would be nice is all.


 


May be one day I will look into toying around with animals, but for now I will stick with learning about working with tileset haks. '<img'>



               
               

               
            

Legacy_Jedijax

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2016, 05:47:47 am »


               

There's lots of options for overriding, you just need to look around in depth. CEP, Project Q and NWNE have plenty, to begin with.