Was busier with other stuff than I expected this weekend – the remaining male parts are now modelled, but I still need to do the textures.
Indeed. Xalta'rs is the one I was talking about, and you're correct on Ragnarok's torso as well. I actually have a mix and match anatomy made out of those two as well as some of the models in Q I believe... I think Project Q had rounder, smaller feet for both genders. Sorry I couldn't provide more info on all these pieces and projects, but I am glad you found them. I haven't actually messed or played with NWN in a long time. You could also check some full body models Zwerkules released some time ago. They were naked women. Old Time Radio also shared some naked female bodies, as robes. Hope this helps!
Using robes as the body and body parts as clothing is an interesting approach and means that you don't get the seams that you do with ordinary body parts. However, as far as I'm aware, it'd likely have clipping issues with all clothing not specifically designed for it (which includes...well, everything), which makes it a bit of a non-starter for what I'm trying to do.
I'd echo the support for more variation - if that doesn't make the project scope unmanageable.
Since most of the less heroic, more varied body shapes are going to be NPCs, perhaps they could be done as clothing?
I'm using some custom phenotypes at present, but that approach requires duplicating all the robes etc, which is getting to be a chore.
Yeah, variations are something I can look at once the 'base version' is done.
What do you mean by doing them 'as clothing'? Since they're PC parts, they essentially are just clothing with model number 001. Or did you mean as opposed to custom phenotypes? If so, yes, I'd do any variation as another PC part on the normal phenotype. Much as custom phenotypes for different heights and body shapes would be fun, I simply don't have time (though I will do a version for the default 'large' phenotype).
can we please get a cheesecake free ver?
If you mean one wearing something more substantial than underwear, absolutely. Once I've done a base body done for all the races and the large pheno, that's the plan. The screenshot I posted in the 'Small Details' CCC thread showing the books has a character with some trousers I made using these models (and some boots, though I did those before I started). The leather armour she's wearing (at least that's what it's meant to be – I didn't finish the texture) is actually what persuaded me to make this thing. It shows some skin around the neck and shoulders, and I didn't like the way it looked when I just used Bioware's model and texture for those parts. So I made my own to use as a base – the reason the base textures are so bare is so people can use them to make anything they want.
I just realized a little detail on the vanilla model or texture: it has fake ambient occlusipn via vertex colors or probably imprinted on the texture, underneath the chin, hair (the whole neck actually), buttcheeks, on the inside of the hand and a bit beneath the breasts. Food for thought?
Yeah, it's part of the texture. Mine does have some (on the female, look on the neck under the chin and on the sides of the torso where the arms would be casting shadows), but it's a bit more subtle than on the Bioware versions. It was more pronounced when I first created the textures, but I preferred the look when I toned it down a bit, in part because it allowed for a smoother transition at the seams.
Everyone likes it if there is equal representation... you know with display pics like that you guys are making it EXTREMELY HARD not to agree with the feminist movement in regards to body image discrimination.
don't make me bring up what happened with finalfantasy game was not really mentioned ? female gamers are finally GIVEN ONE male protagonist in a cute sexy outfit (and its not even that bad if you consider it) and you men have to whine and ruin it.... can we at least agree if your showing off skin alterations it needs to focus on the skin and not a cheesecake on one end and a guy with pants and boots on the other?
The image display comes off as sexist on one end a chick in just a skimpy thong bikini (lets be honest no female good aligned priest warrior or ranger would ever be cough dead in vs man in black lather pants and boots? your making it really hard to not see it as sexist to be honest just saying.
also I hope Square enix returns the design for the male protagonist back to normal just to say something mean to complainers. they know they have more then enough female fans to make it a success; this doesn't count the male fans with enough manliness not to be effected by a characters not even very revealing wardrobe.
can we just get a better reorientation of how the skins are please and preferably a version where it does not involve canning the original "no armor" appearance on display please and thankyou.
Er...did you actually read the thread before posting this? I have already explained that the reason the male has only one screenshot and still has trousers on is because I have not finished the model and texture for his pelvis and legs yet. I will post them when they are complete and don't you worry, he will be wearing underpants. The whole point of the texture is to give an alternative appearance to the skin, which other things can then be built around.