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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2014, 11:28:53 am »


               

There is on the old vault an unofficial update for CEP1.x that makes it compatible with v1.69.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2014, 12:07:07 pm »


               


OK I want to see the CEP return they were a quick good way to make and elaborate a server.


  • First off CEP1 someone needs to make a straight complete download of the CEP1 to latest version 



Ive done this, sort of - i added all the content from the patches 1.53+ into my own haks so players needed to download only 1.52 - but this is not a good idea to do generally because there are older modules that are requiring these haks. And there is almost nobody who would appreciate a polished cep1 version to build new module anymore.


 



 


Some other projects the New CEP can work on
  • Online server list fix; we have a registry of servers lets use it lets try and get a active registry fix an exe a player can run that will be activate and change update multiplayer functions on the game.


This is hardly a focus or interest of CEP. Would be better suited to the community patch but there is a problem of the implementation - it requires nwn client *hakc (direct exe modification or a nwncx.exe hook) which is problematic because of EULA afaik. The NWNCX solution is probably not, but this solution is not suited for a generic update of the client especially when it loads different plugins etc. etc.



               
               

               


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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2014, 02:33:30 am »


               


The name of a module? You used a three letter word that started with "a" to personally attack someone, not the name of a module.


And now you are calling people lazy. How is that going to solve anything?


So you want to help the community? Good! Start by showing some respect to people here who already DID what you claim to want to do.


And whatever nudity there may be in the CEP, the people who made it are probably long gone and you shouldn't attack people who are updating the CEP for something they never added to the CEP themselves.


And if that content in the CEP should really become such a problem, it will only kill the CEP, not the game.


 


If you don't like the server list some hard working community members made make a better one. You're not a programmer? Then don't complain about something other people did in their own free time if you can't even understand what it is they did! Let's see you do a better job!




and that would have been the misfire where part of the text was erased or didn't make it, a problem on my end that should have been solved as for the "personal attack" OH like him being a jerk about it isn't personal SERIOUSLY;


 


you preach allot about maturity but I hardly see any form you at this moment taking the post out of context because of one posting error that YOU DIDN'T EVEN GIVE ME THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND OR NOTICE HAPPENED, and I am gonna pin that on you as hard as I can because you should really be practicing what you decide to preach.


 


I could be really evil and bring up every other post were you were being a disrespectful menace but I'm gonna be nice and leave it as you pulled something out of context because of a problem on my computer led to a error in the previous post. I will admit the error on my end was extremely bad but At least I got it fixed after being properly informed some of my posts were not appearing right by a NICER person.


 


Also off topic Don't make me ask you to remove it: this topic in question is to revive a mass content pack liek the CEP where its comparable with the last relive of the NWN; to make a effort to ensure the hack packs are more contactable with one another.


 


so instead of snuffing it liek you are clearly trying to do why not oh HMM MAKE A SUGGESTION that works for everyone. Also as a side note NEXT TIME I am not going to be so nice and will proceed to tear every post you made in the past 5 weeks to shreds in one post the next time you decide to degrade me with your superiority complex.  '<img'>


 


 




Ive done this, sort of - i added all the content from the patches 1.53+ into my own haks so players needed to download only 1.52 - but this is not a good idea to do generally because there are older modules that are requiring these haks. And there is almost nobody who would appreciate a polished cep1 version to build new module anymore.


 


This is hardly a focus or interest of CEP. Would be better suited to the community patch but there is a problem of the implementation - it requires nwn client *hakc (direct exe modification or a nwncx.exe hook) which is problematic because of EULA afaik. The NWNCX solution is probably not, but this solution is not suited for a generic update of the client especially when it loads different plugins etc. etc.




Really Can I ask you to make me a hackpack than for my server? I really really want to use the cep1 and all the good peaceable options in the latest nwn and customization features as well as some 1800's inspired attire if it still exists and a series of animal based tails for more player customization options, if you agree to help I need to give you my skype so we can work out an agreement.


 


As yes as I mentioned before, the exe that fixes the server list would be about getting the CEP back to helping the comunity.


 


as for you other people not realizing the cep was had BEAUTIFUL oriental peaceable and wonderful series of content for natural and unnatural settings that were just thrown away carelessly when the cep2 came out. I could go into how if you make an expansion its actually a VARCE to let it lapse into a complete incomparable state but the games not improving anymore its not gaining placeables without the assistance of a hackpack NOW would be a wonderful time to fix the incomparably issue.


 


There were people who used it to its full extent liek me who GOT SCREWED when the CEP2 came out because we couldn't work with the new CEP it lacked too much of what we were using.


 


by being a big baby about the hackpack and not updating it you actually make yourself look bad, I don't have a problem with that but please don't come into my threads where I'm pleading someone WILLING TO help make a comparable version to do it. and everyone here who is saying no one needs to no one needs to its useless bla bla bla, you are being disrespectful rude and just downright inappropriate. this is me trying to find someone to help me build MY vision of my server NOT your vision of what you think my server is. and allowing  them to do so in a way that helps other developers and players alike.


 


just because one developer is lazy does not mean you have a right to attack someone looking for one that isn't to do what was left undone


 




There is on the old vault an unofficial update for CEP1.x that makes it compatible with v1.69.




Yes; but I would much rather see a full download that is 100% comparable with the last update to nwn. too many hacks in one pool can denture players so I am actively looking for a hack-pack builder that can help me.


 


and lastly to address the succubus issues 2d images aren't held to the same laws as 3d, I never said I liked the laws in fact I think the people controlling them are off their rockers with stupidity but they should be considered when making community expansions.


 




Yeah, you guys, you're all just lazy! You need to do everything "I've only been here five seconds but I'm already making buttock-clenchingly hilarious demands of the community guy" has asked for, like, right now, or you're terrible people and you'll all go to Hell.




 


I cant tell if your mocking me or trying to make a point so I will opt to just call this comment completely off topic, I suggest we let it settle on that.


 


NOW if you aren't gonna help DON'T COMMENT that simple, can we all agree on that? The idea is to preserve content for NWN and make it easier for players to find and customize their servers lets focus on that.


 


why bring the cep1 up to date because until the update that broke and a little time after it it still took over over 50% of the custom servers that in my book is reason enough to at least make it comparable with NWN's last update and work on making future hacks comparable with each other. A reminder that there were people who refused to update past the break point JUST TO KEEP the cep1. 



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2014, 02:56:15 am »


               kuronue bloodlust, I recommend ceasing your hostility.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2014, 02:58:35 am »


               


 


as for you other people not realizing the cep was had BEAUTIFUL oriental peaceable and wonderful series of content for natural and unnatural settings that were just thrown away carelessly when the cep2 came out.




Ok, nonchalantly ignoring the psychotic breakdown here, but is this actually true? Could you be a bit more specific about what oriental placeables were lost?



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2014, 03:13:01 am »


               

You can catch more flies with...  *sigh*  Never mind.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2014, 03:57:48 am »


               

If you are so hot for having CEPv1 updated and such..... you could either nicely ask that someone do it for you, or take up the task yourself.



None of us here are in anyway obligated to work for each other.  Everyone here also has their own busy schedule with work, family and such.  The community isn't going to suddenly die off because nobody has met your demands in a short and timely manner.  We are all here, everybody has their own projects they are working on, collaborating when time and desire for such permits.  Be thankful for having fellow community members that put out the great custom content you crave.  I certainly am, as are many others here.


Seriously, chill.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2014, 05:13:07 am »


               


If you are so hot for having CEPv1 updated and such..... you could either nicely ask that someone do it for you, or take up the task yourself.


None of us here are in anyway obligated to work for each other.  Everyone here also has their own busy schedule with work, family and such.  The community isn't going to suddenly die off because nobody has met your demands in a short and timely manner.  We are all here, everybody has their own projects they are working on, collaborating when time and desire for such permits.  Be thankful for having fellow community members that put out the great custom content you crave.  I certainly am, as are many others here.


Seriously, chill.




you haven't seen the start of this thread much have you? 


 


I did ask nicely it was a it would be great if.... and it was made as a content suggestion.


 


thanks to two forum members with too much support in my opinion (because it not only allowed them to take this thread 100% out of context but move it to where its difficult to FIND the person I need or someone who IS willing to do such things for the CEP developers since they made it more then clear they are not going to take the time to properly maintain "their hard work") they have been doing NOTHING but demeaning me, At first you will notice I decided to ignore this at first but Alas my comments and explanations go on death ears and they continued to belittle me. Something that is extremely rude inappropriate and i find it just vile that the only reason you support them is because they were here first.


 


I would liek to thank everyone that made bad comments in support of these two for COMPLETELY IGNORING my person feelings about being belittled by them.


 


now because of one error brought on by a Trojan on my system (that has since been removed my system repaired) NO THANKS TO SOMEONE I WILL NOT NAME for failing to tell me that part of a post intended for tumblr in retort to something completely far off topic seriously the fact it didn't quite sound right should have been a red light for him but clearly was NOT.


 


This person knows who they are and I made it clear that I will not tolerate this superiority game I am not above blocking them and reporting them for harassment. I have been building modules since after platinum was first made available I have built a WIDE range of modules and If I hadn't lost everything when my hard-drive crashed (before i had means to back it up) they would all be in the new vault now.


 


so I am going to say this again and try this again; If you are NOT posting here to help if you are not posting here to make positive suggestions please DO NOT post at all as your comment is more than likely off topic this thread was originally intended to find someone who will act as a archivist for the CEP ensuring that NWN's CEP's are comparable and have a one click full download. this topic isn't even int eh right thread anymore because of third party banter so PLEASE STOP.


 


THINK about what this is about


REMEMBER if your comment is not about attaining a archivist to maintain older CEP's and help create hackpacks for mass custom content servers; you probably don't need to be making it.


 


and no more of this nonsense form them two that is NOT what this thread is about.


 


edited: fixed posting errors due to transfer load errors.


 


 




Ok, nonchalantly ignoring the psychotic breakdown here, but is this actually true? Could you be a bit more specific about what oriental placeables were lost?




I'm sorry I realizes I hadn't addressed you, allot of the wall art and interior decor as well as the Celtic walls and quite a few plants the Bamboo and Sakura trees were all removed form the CEP last update I was able to download in the past before my hard-drive went poof on me and I lost EVERYTHING. at that time I could not afford a external storage device big enough thou I tried using Zip file and winrar. I seriously had that many things to save and that didn't include my modules and downloadable content liek auto-closing and locking doors.

 

At one point I had learned what every single script in the standard library did and even had portal crystals that actual worked as an on click basis like doors.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2014, 06:12:35 am »


               

Yes, I did read the thread from the first post on.


 


 


Zwerkles gave you a heads up on a thread already covering the CEP update, and mentioned that AD was heading up this new update. AD's not one of the orignal CEP team, he has only recently started on "maintaining" the project by working on a new update.  His response listed your specific points, what points fit into the 2.6 cep update, what didn't and why he would not be including such projects into his schedule.  Neither his post nor Zwerkles were in any way demeaning of you or your personal feelings.


 


 


The CEP stands for community expansion project. The CEP is a compilation of multiple independent works, and while the original developers are not on the project now, there are new members taking up maintaining it and updating it, despite your backhanded insults towards them accusing them of not.  The community members taking up the project are under no obligation to do so, which is the primary reason why your continual and habitual insults are particularly grating to many people here who are extremely appreciative for the CEP team's efforts.


 



Sorry, no, you did not ask nicely in the initial posting, although the post I see was not blatantly rude.  What comes after the initial post has been extremely rude however.  You refer to others as whiny, lazy, and even up to now you still persist in a petulant and demanding attitude.


 



I am very sorry for your busy schedule, the trojan on your computer or whatever situation is preventing you from taking on the project yourself. But that is no excuse for the poor attitude and demands. If you want demeaning and a complete disregard of personal feelings, here it is: Stop being a jerk.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2014, 10:08:49 am »


               

You go on about personal attacks and don't point out I translated your forum name to English? I thought that was clever of me '<img'>.


 






why bring the cep1 up to date because until the update that broke and a little time after it it still took over over 50% of the custom servers that in my book is reason enough to at least make it comparable with NWN's last update and work on making future hacks comparable with each other. A reminder that there were people who refused to update past the break point JUST TO KEEP the cep1. 




Yes. We know about this. Trust me, you are preaching to the choir. Unfortunately the damage is done and we have to take what we can for what we have to work with.


 


Here are some facts


 


1: In the current format, it is impossible to get CEP 1 and CEP 2 completely compatible with each other. One of the two is going to need to be catered towards


2: People complained. Oh -boy- did they complain. You are not the first. I could dig up some of the complaints, but they were on the old Neverwinter Bioware board when there was a separate CEP board so I'd have to search through all the archived posts and... That's 17,000 posts just to find some ignored complaints that most people didn't like Rest assured your issues were brought up at the time and ignored by the CEP team at the time, who have all vanished


3: The CEP has been stagnant for a year and you came in at a wonderful time, as Amethyst Dragon has decided enough is enough and taken over what he can by a violent show of force. Okay, I'm lying, it wasn't violent. But basically no work has been done on the CEP in forever until someone decided to do a hostile takeover of it. The people who made every CEP version, from the prototypes all the way to 2.3, are long gone. 2.4/3 is a hypothetical.thing at this point


4: At this point the team can either burn everything done on CEP 2 and go back to an old one that hasn't even been updated for Patch 1.69, or salvage what we can from the new one that more people are using


 


Now, let's do something Kuronue to solve the other issue at hand: Missing placables


 


Let me know, if you see any of those Oriental placables in either of these two images


Image one, Coulisfu's Oriental (Third row down)


Charlie's Oriental Placables


 


If you see the placables in question on either of those two, then I can find the hak and we can look into why they've been removed.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2014, 11:10:00 am »


               

Here's a novel idea, lets take KB's own suggestion, for those of us tired of the ranting, and put KB on ignore like I did and block his/her posts from appearing. Then when there is no one left to respond to KB's rants, because no one can see them, he/she will perhaps move along and find a new forum to rant in and leave the NWN Community in peace.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2014, 12:45:28 pm »


               

@ Mecheon: I remember a post by ADK (the guy who made the Kunoichi modules) saying as well that some of Coulisfu's placeables are missing in the CEP 2.0.


 


After a quick comparision, CEP seems to only include the placeables that come with Ori Rural 2.4, which means every palceable after line 1107 in the V3 placeable 2da (the baby bamboo) is missing.


 


Furthermore, off versions for the red, blue, yellow and green lanterns are missing. Coulisfu also seems to have made changes to the banners from V 2.4 to V 3, changing them from different colors (red, blue, green, etc.)  to different sizes (s, m, l and hanging).


 


Would be cool, if we could include the missing stuff into CEP 2.60, I think.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2014, 02:40:28 pm »


               


Here's a novel idea, lets take KB's own suggestion, for those of us tired of the ranting, and put KB on ignore like I did and block his/her posts from appearing. Then when there is no one left to respond to KB's rants, because no one can see them, he/she will perhaps move along and find a new forum to rant in and leave the NWN Community in peace.




I moderated a Warcraft 3 website for 5 years, Pstemarie. I've dealt with worse


 


Much worse.


 




@ Mecheon: I remember a post by ADK (the guy who made the Kunoichi modules) saying as well that some of Coulisfu's placeables are missing in the CEP 2.0.


 


After a quick comparision, CEP seems to only include the placeables that come with Ori Rural 2.4, which means every palceable after line 1107 in the V3 placeable 2da (the baby bamboo) is missing.


 


Furthermore, off versions for the red, blue, yellow and green lanterns are missing. Coulisfu also seems to have made changes to the banners from V 2.4 to V 3, changing them from different colors (red, blue, green, etc.)  to different sizes (s, m, l and hanging).


 


Would be cool, if we could include the missing stuff into CEP 2.60, I think.




Now this is progress and may explain our problem!


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2014, 03:01:23 pm »


               


I moderated a Warcraft 3 website for 5 years, Pstemarie. I've dealt with worse


 


Much worse.


 




 


I also think, just judging from the general grammar and spelling, that the dude's native language isn't English and some misunderstandings might come from that as well. As an ESL guy myself, I'm willing to cut him some slack. Plus I also tended to lash out a little too violently in the past when I felt cornered and piled up upon (even if only perceived so) in RL.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2014, 05:35:00 pm »


               


@ Mecheon: I remember a post by ADK (the guy who made the Kunoichi modules) saying as well that some of Coulisfu's placeables are missing in the CEP 2.0.


 


After a quick comparision, CEP seems to only include the placeables that come with Ori Rural 2.4, which means every palceable after line 1107 in the V3 placeable 2da (the baby bamboo) is missing.


 


Furthermore, off versions for the red, blue, yellow and green lanterns are missing. Coulisfu also seems to have made changes to the banners from V 2.4 to V 3, changing them from different colors (red, blue, green, etc.)  to different sizes (s, m, l and hanging).


 


Would be cool, if we could include the missing stuff into CEP 2.60, I think.




 


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