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« Reply #150 on: March 18, 2014, 06:06:23 pm »


               

Making variations is not so bad if you're working on tiles with buildings, but for other tiles it can be unglamorous as Este said and making each terrain type work with each other terrain type can be gruelling work especially when they can all be raised as well.


Calling it unglamorous is putting it mildly. If you have more than four terrain types and have to make all the possible combinations it can get so boring that you have to take a break from that tileset and work on something else or it can put you off making custom content for quite a while.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #151 on: March 19, 2014, 04:52:02 pm »


               

And of course there is the issue of missing one or two of the various combinations that you were sure you already added... things that seldom show up but you can be sure that someone will report the 'bug' eventually. ':blink:'


 


It is too bad that Thrikreen never released his updated NWMax that had the ability to auto-create blank tiles properly named for each combination necessary.  At least that way you could easily see what tiles still needed to be created.  Plug in the various terrains and crosser names needed, and it was supposed to auto-fill a table of tile names for you etc.  I would almost give my left leg for that, but since it is the only leg I have left, I guess I would have to give up something else instead. ':wacko:'


 


Edit:  Estelindis, sorry that I have not been able to get things working on my pc at this stage of things.  I keep plugging away at it, eventually I will get a working copy of something installed.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #152 on: March 20, 2014, 12:20:02 am »


               

Feel free to include my treehouses and Inn of the Last Home if you want. http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=8158


http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=8152


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #153 on: March 20, 2014, 01:33:29 pm »


               


Feel free to include my treehouses and Inn of the Last Home if you want. http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=8158


http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=8152




Thank you very much!  The Inn looks like it would suit the aesthetics of the tileset.  I look forward to making a few tweaks so that it fits in.  Really appreciate this and will be sure to credit you.


 




 


It is too bad that Thrikreen never released his updated NWMax that had the ability to auto-create blank tiles properly named for each combination necessary.  At least that way you could easily see what tiles still needed to be created.  Plug in the various terrains and crosser names needed, and it was supposed to auto-fill a table of tile names for you etc.  I would almost give my left leg for that, but since it is the only leg I have left, I guess I would have to give up something else instead. ':wacko:'


 


Edit:  Estelindis, sorry that I have not been able to get things working on my pc at this stage of things.  I keep plugging away at it, eventually I will get a working copy of something installed.




Seriously, it would be great to be able to use that tool, but not, as you say, at an awful cost!


 


Please don't worry about your PC not working out for you yet - at least, don't worry on my account.  To modify a quote from Jesus regarding the Sabbath: life shouldn't be at the service of better modding; modding should be at the service of a better life.  For my own part, the tileset is proceeding a bit slower than I'd intended, but I know that's because some of my life circumstances have changed (following my renovations, my father became very ill), so I'm not going to feel bad about it or apologise.  It'll be done when it's done.  And, because of that attitude, whenever I do have the time to work on the tileset and feel in the mood to do so, it's a great escape from my circumstances and helps me to relax.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #154 on: March 20, 2014, 08:31:38 pm »


               

Sorry about your father, Estelindis. I wish that he recover shortly.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #155 on: March 20, 2014, 11:18:43 pm »


               


Sorry about your father, Estelindis. I wish that he recover shortly.




Thanks, Ssythilac.  All wishes gratefully accepted!  Honestly, it looks to be pretty serious, but early detection hopefully means that it can be handled more easily than it would be otherwise.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #156 on: March 21, 2014, 11:13:32 am »


               

Best wishes to you and your family,  Estelindis.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #157 on: March 21, 2014, 04:04:51 pm »


               

Estelindis, I am sorry to hear about your father.  I know how things like that can seriously effect your life.  You are in my heart and prayers.  I wish you and your father the best possible outcome with whatever treatments he has to deal with.  May God provide him the minimum pain and maximum possible outcome.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #158 on: March 22, 2014, 04:33:29 am »


               

Estelindis, really sorry to hear bad news about your dad. I too went thru this if you ever need to just talk I'll be around. Best wishes to you and your dad, you'll be in my thoughts and prayers. 



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #159 on: April 17, 2014, 07:19:58 am »


               

Estelindis,


 


I was watching this thread for quite a while, then got distracted before I could actually see your work in the toolset.  I've now downloaded the version you linked to on one of the first pages...


 


And I'm blown away.  That file is just a beta version?  Seriously?


 


I have some elves in my PW that need their own living spaces that aren't retextures of the underdark or drow tilesets.  I was considering trying to make my own elven city exterior that has elven (rather than drow) style, when I remembered you were already working on one and I had to search it out.


 


Wonderful work already, and myself and others are (im)patiently holding our breaths for this set (or news of it) to pass our way.  It's a thing of beauty.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #160 on: April 19, 2014, 01:22:01 am »


               

Thanks, AD.  It's nice to see such interest in the tileset.  As I said earlier, my dad's illness has made life difficult.  (Thanks very much to everyone who expressed their sympathy.)  Nonetheless, I have a lot more done since my last post here.  I wanted to pass a few more benchmarks before I updated the project file that anyone can access, but I suppose it can't hurt to update earlier than I'd intended, especially if folks want it.  Please see the link in my signature for the project, with the updated file.  Alternatively, if I've set things up right, you should be able to download it from my Google Drive: https://drive.google...it?usp=sharing 


 


I have added three crossers: alley, courtyard, and roof.  These are all for the building terrain.  Details follow below.  


 


  1. Alley.  There is little to no variation in this crosser yet.  All the basic, necessary tiles are there.  What I want next is to add lots more variations and also to add "advanced, necessary" tiles - that is, various ways to enter the alley via inside corner building tiles (usually appended 01 by Bioware), not just straight building tiles (02).  Having all those options was one thing I had wanted to do before releasing an update, but not to worry.

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  3. Courtyard.  This is pretty much the same as the alley, except not walkable, i.e. without platform.  Instead, trees grow up through the space.  Ideally, I want to make this work with a walkway through the courtyard as well, but I haven't prototyped this yet.  As yet, I have only made two basic tiles of this type.  Getting to the same number of courtyard tiles as alley was my aim before releasing the update - but, again, that can come later.

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  5. Roof.  I noticed that the number of centre tiles, those typically given the number "20" in Bioware terrains, was getting quite large.  To help builders who want to "line up" the roof tiles, I have created this crosser.  It is, essentially, a "roof helper."  It will eventually make edge tiles nicer too.  (FYI, I haven't made edge tiles yet for any of this new stuff.)  A much smaller number of building centre tiles are left over, now that many of them are integrated into the roof crosser.  I still have a *heap* of new building centre tiles that I want to make, though.  Also, the little balconies that I've put into some of them have a systematic bug that I haven't fixed yet (the balcony floor should be higher).

As for pictures, I can't seen to get Print Screen to work for NWN at the minute, so you'll have to settle for some small toolset images.



 

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« Reply #161 on: April 19, 2014, 01:53:02 am »


               

Don't want to rush you, Estelindis.  Just wanted to show my appreciation for the work you've already put into this.  I've not made a tileset from scratch myself, but I know just from modifying existing ones that it's a huge amount of work.


 


And the new screenshots: beautiful work.  Love the leafy open "courtyard" look and the window-lined alleys.  So much potential.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #162 on: April 19, 2014, 03:29:27 am »


               Wow that is jaw dropping este but don't hurry family first.


I'll continue to keep your father in my  prayers.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #163 on: April 19, 2014, 03:36:48 am »


               

That's a beautiful tileset you've got there, Este. My thoughts are with you and your father.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #164 on: April 19, 2014, 04:58:18 am »


               

Beautiful work as always, Estelindis. My best wishes for you and your father.