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Legacy__six

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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 10:43:26 pm »


               It'd probably be useful for any tables, really. The actual content is where its going to be most important I feel.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Rolo Kipp

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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 10:50:38 pm »


               <offering a slice...>

If you go to the NwN1 Catalog you'll see that the generated table of projects (whatever filter you use to fine tune the selection) is sortable by the "updated" date (default sort) or "Title". Click to sort, click again to reverse the order.

That the kind of thing you mean?

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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 10:53:35 pm »


               Yeah. Original date and author would be neat to add too. My other general observation there is that the font size is very large, and the sequential tables for different content types I can see being frustrating compared to either having seperate pages, or a "content type" field on the table itself for hak/modules etcs
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Rolo Kipp

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2013, 11:15:51 pm »


               <nodding...>

Those are actually related as the large font takes up so much realestate :-P
Adding those columns is easily doable.
I have *planned* child menus for each of the categories off the catalog->NwN1/2-> menu, just haven't got to it. Until then, it's trivial to use the filter to show whatever subset you want (modules & hakpaks, with the CCC tag, ferinstance :-)

Alternately, I could put the primary categories as tabs rather than child menus.
*cough*
Umm, perhaps we could move the fine details to the developers forum :-)

Please do keep the suggestions/concerns coming, though!

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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2013, 05:44:19 am »


               

Rolo Kipp wrote...
1) I am archiving updates to the OV every Sunday, so I *may* have the newest stuff, depending on when OV goes dark.

I wrote to someone very high up in IGN, asking what as going to happen with the Vault after IGN's sale and Maximus taking the position at Blizzard. 

Amazingly, I received a response.  '<img'>

Their response was short but they indicated that a decision was made about a year ago to stop actively updating the sites that were built on "code bases" and services they nolonger supported but that they will keep the sites alive as archives and have no plans whatsoever to delete the data anytime soon.  That answer specifically included the Vault sites.

A number of years ago I asked Maximus if it was okay if I used content from other Vaults/IGN sites for modding in NWN and he said it was.  So I became pretty familiar with what modding content IGN had to offer.  During that exploration I noticed that not just are the Vault Network sites set up on the same software (what I read as the "code base") as the Neverwinter Vault, but the Planet sites I checked are, too.  Like Planet Battlefield, Planet Grand Theft Auto and so on.  And they're all still serving their files still.

Over the years various site maintainers have moved on or drifted away and the sites had remained up, but a lot of them did split over the course of last year.  That seems to jive with the reponse I recieved from IGN. 

My takeaway from the response and my own knowledge of what exists out there is that the Vault and those sites are intended, anyway, to be up for quite a while to come and not expected to unceremoniously go dark.

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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2013, 07:00:58 pm »


               I would be very leery of an unmanaged site, without any code updates, that tends to not go as planned, but welcome it staying up as long as possible of course.

Eventually it's going to become an emergency issue due to some new security issue, some new exploit, or just get filled up with spammers or they find out it's been compromised in some manner like what happened on the old bioboards - of course this assumes they are even monitoring it.

Regardless, I am again syncing the vault itself, getting the checksums of all the files and verifying we already have an exact copy thereof stored somewhere, and integrating the previous scrapers work into a standard system, and should be able to keep anything updated on the vault synced. If it stays up, i can focus on making it more of a syncing issue, and make it easier for authors to upload their latest changes to the vault/vpp/nexus - and get any uploads to the vpp also showing up on the vault proper and vice versa. If it fails, well we will have extra copies of the given files on our own backup vault.

Regardless what is being done is going to benefit the community far more than just keeping the old vault chugging along. I really think it's not a good idea to be too dependent on News Corp or Ziff Davis, the vault is after all the sum of all our collective work in this community, and in the end we as a community should be in control of it.