Come on in - The Water's Fine

[Legacy_Tarot Redhand]

               I have now finished transferring all my old vault stuff to the VPP (aka The New Vault). This has caused a slight problem and a bit of an embarrasment to me  You see as this is all new content as far as the VPP is concerned it looks like I am almost the only contributer to the site. This where the custom content creators on here can help by doing the same thing as me and manually transferring their stuff too.

So why (apart from easing my embarrasment) should you want to? Well for one you get to be on the front page again with stuff that is not necessarily all new and sparkly. The second reason is to jump before you are pushed. The third is that it gives you the opportunity to re-design your presentation and/or the content that you want to be downloaded together. The fourth reason is that the way that the VPP is organised into project pages allows you to group multiple related uploads onto a single page without upsetting the votes you've already aquired on the old vault. The fifth reason is that the VPP allows you to specify a list of keywords to be used when people are searching for your project.

So what are the downsides? Well like all sites where you can upload content you need to be registered with the site to do so. This is not a real problem and is relatively painless. The site is still under development. While this is true, it is fully working as far as the up and download of files is concerned. The things that are being worked on are more cosmetic than functional (as far as I can see). Also if you are worried about putting your content on more than one site, remember that the old vault will close, we just don't know when.

Are you worried about the actual transfer? All the up and downloading this entails. Don't be. The VPP has a nifty trick whereby you can get it to fetch your pictures and files from the old vault (or anywhere else on the web you have them stored) for you. For each item there will be a link that says Remote URL. Click the link, give it the url of the item (not the web page) to be transferred and press the transfer button. The VPP will then fetch your file for you.

So please start uploading stuff. While it can't hurt those who like to self-promote it can ease my little problem (aka the TR Front Page Show )

TR
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <raising a glass...>

There are a couple other not so obvious considerations: first, while I *am* working on migrating the content from the old Vault, it is not a quick process. And, as it will be done by code, there are bound to be snafus :-P Migrating your own stuff by hand gives the highest quality result :-)

Secondly, namespace, like realestate, can be very important. Reserve *your* handle before some yahoo moves in on it and squats. While V1 is still up I can verify accounts and make sure this gets corrected. Once V1 goes down, it's first come, first named.

As Metallica says - Sad But True.

P.s. Actually, I'm not doing much cosmetic work at the moment unless it *really* irks me. I'm working on the two biggest and most promising aspects of the VPP: the migration of content and integration with Pain's NeverLauncher & file storage system.

<...and searching the horizon>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy__six]

               My eyes hurt.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_MerricksDad]

               If I had more time for you, I'd jump on the CSS in a heartbeat. However, I'm finding it hard to even get some simple hobgoblin stuff done. I will be having my wisdom teeth out in a few weeks, and will have a bit of near-mandatory down time.

If you need any javascript libraries, or css tips, just give a hollar. My javascript libraries, while not complete, are completely open to the public.

Any of the functions provided in this library can easily be pulled out and used elsewhere, or just be used as is. http://userscripts.o...s/review/123889
               
               

               

                     Modifié par MerricksDad, 20 mai 2013 - 08:27 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_henesua]

               MerricksDad, I'll keep the css/javascript seat warm for you until you show up.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lord Sullivan]

               

_six wrote...

My eyes hurt.

^^  Likewise +1
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Tarot Redhand]

                To complain (nanny software removed the female dog word here, huh!) can be cathartic they say. So all those who do not like the current graphics scheme on the new vault please take a look here and have your say. If you don't then you could end up with something even worse in your eyes:devil:.

TR
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Tarot Redhand, 22 mai 2013 - 11:11 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_KlatchainCoffee]

               I always thought the current 'look' was temporary, because Rolo was too busy dealing with everything else. I didn't think it would turn out to be quite so big a discouragement, however.

*hobbles over to see if anything can be done to help*
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <paying his respects...>

The current look (theme) *is* temporary, though it points in the direction I want to go. In Drupal, the theming layer is independent of the content.

In fact, on my list of things to do is an optional mobile theme to make things easier on my tiny phone :-)

I think I'll enable a few basic themes (and maybe a crazy, psychodelic one to show how bad things can get) and let users check them out, but ideally we'll customize the one I've started until people stop bleeding out their eyes ;-)

<...to the Courts of Chaos>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <laying out...>

I've enabled a few different themes (skins) including a couple "mobile" themes. None of them have the blocks of content moved to the right spot except the default Zen Vault, but you can get an idea of the look, anyway. Try them out :-)

(You have to be logged in to see the theme switch widget... It has to know who to save the preference for...)

<...some wares of questionable source>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_rogueknight333]

               Aside from reserving one's community name before some doppelganger seizes it, is there some urgent necessity to upload one's content right now? As I understand it, the plan is to migrate most everything currently on the old vault. I presume that means that those of us with content there now will see it migrated along with the rest. If I upload something now, and it then also gets uploaded in the great migration, will that result in duplicate entries, or is there a plan to deal with that? Will it be impossible to edit/update migrated content, so that one needs to re-upload so as to be able to do that? If one's content includes links to hakpaks, reviews, etc. I assume that at least for the moment one can only link to the entries on the old vault?

Apologies if these are ignorant and foolish questions. I have only comparatively recently become aware of the impending doom  descending upon the old vault and am still learning about the alternatives.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               the vault is definetely slow as hell and searching trough the old gems anymore with joy is gone for me. It´takes to long to build up a simple site of 10 entries and and and...and no fun! So your projects are really appreciated guys '>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy__six]

               For me, the 'Bartik' theme looks clean, well laid out and probably a good base to customize from. With my (non-widescreen) resolution and Chrome at least, the other alternatives result in a varyingly random and unusable layout.

I don't know how much is in your power to do, but I'd really appreciate the ability to sort tables by column.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par _six, 22 mai 2013 - 08:31 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <straddling...>

@ BY: I appreciate all the strokes we can get :-) And we all want it to be fun again :-)

@ RK 333: (damn you initials! ;-) there are several considerations to weigh, but most of them come under the heading of "migrating by hand is the highest quality, but there is no way to migrate 40k projects by hand!"
1) I am archiving updates to the OV every Sunday, so I *may* have the newest stuff, depending on when OV goes dark.
2) I am coding the migrate modules to look before it leaps: if the project already exists and the existing *files* are the same age or newer, it will not migrate files. If the "updated" date on V2 is the same age or newer than the "updated" date I've archived, it will not migrate the project.
2b) the scraper is currently not saving comments beyond the first page. I'm stressing about that. There are some other things that I haven't figured how to migrate yet, but if it's displayed on the OV, it's archived for when I figure it out. :-P
3) if the migrate module finds a user that matches the author, it will make that user the owner. A very big reason to register! If it does not find that author, it will assign ownership to "Migrate wizard" and I can fix it later... When I have time :-P
4) Every bit helps. We are also integrating NeverLauncher and the vault file API into the VPP and the more cases we can verify, the better the integration.
5) links. Currently, (because I can do migrations in passes) ill be migrating the links as is (pointing to OV pages). At a later date, I'll run through everything and try to redirect them to V2 pages that map to OV pages. What it can't figure out will go in a ToDo list to be hand translated.
6) Valid concerns are never ignorant or silly :-)
7) in the end, for me at least, it's all about preserving the fantastic stuff and making things fun again ;-)

If you can, in fact, I'd recommend posting *all* new content on V2, and migrating your own content as you can.

Every bit helps. Seriously.

<...a widening rift>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <laying his...>

If the table is generated in a view (most are), I can enable sorting by column.
Which table caught your eye?

<...cards on a table>