"Ask not what the CEP can do for you, but ..."

[Legacy_kalbaern]

               The CEP has been a floundering project for a couple of years now. Its time "We" as a Community did something about it before it dies off completely. New members with the following skill sets are desired.

- Creature Modelling/Animation
- Tileset Creation/Merging
- Hak Compiling/Merging
- 2da and TLK Compiling/Merging

Additionally, there are likely many folk in the NWN Community at large that while they may lack the time or even desire to help with the CEP, I'd ask if they'd consider at least helping to pass on some of their skill sets. Folk that can give instruction on any of the above regarding custom content in general would help spring new life into not just the CEP, but projects like the CTP and Project Q as well.

Whether you plan on contributing or not, I urge all here to register on the newest CEP Forums that Amethyst Dragon had put for us. Voices/Input on what to fix and how to proceed are just as important as who does what. So come, register and speak up.

Rather than make a lengthy post here, anyone wondering over the motivation for this post can visit the link below.
nwncep.forumotion.com/t36-do-we-roll-over-or-fight-on
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Malishara]

               As a CEP Team member, I can state that the CEP Team has NOT authorized any such action. Anyone who wishes to contribute may of course, request to do so. I am sure that anyone who truly wishes to help will be welcomed.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               I am afraid just thinking about being in charge for the tilesets alone. As an example I would throw out the whole nwncq stuff because (the topic rises again) it does not fit in with the rest of the nwn art style in general. Take modern tilesets like LoWs and _six work, which are outstanding beatifull and simultaneously fit in very well. And so the list would go on and on. I base my decisions on trying to see the whole deal;)

I can only contribute my creations, share my knowledge and helping here and there with a few models. But your appeal is realy justified (I read the CEP leaders reply) and it´s strange how unresponsible (imo) it is towards all the PW and modulebuilders. Also the compatibility seems to be a problem here and then...

That all means in no way that im taking sides, just my 2cents

So anyway good luck;)
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 26 juin 2012 - 09:07 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_kalbaern]

               

Malishara wrote...

As a CEP Team member, I can state that the CEP Team has NOT authorized any such action. Anyone who wishes to contribute may of course, request to do so. I am sure that anyone who truly wishes to help will be welcomed.

Actually, the CEP Team (if you call it such) has asked for assistance. As far as claiming however that "anyone who truly wishes to help will be welcomed", evidence proves otherwise so far.

Despite "Barry's" and apparently now Malishara's unwillingness to work with others, the CEP is and will always be a "Community" Project. To help ensure it does remain so, I encourage ... no, make that plea for others in the NWN Community to visit there, sign up and chime in. If you can help, volunteer. If you help is rejected, so be it. My hope is that in time, given enough interest and responses, the project will once again grow and actually serve the NWN Community as was the intention of the CEP's original founders.

Even if you cannot or do not wish to offer assistance to them, sign up anyhow. Only by joining and voicing your actual concerns and requests can they ever be made known. Sadly, the current CEP Leadership boycotts these pages. hopefully, in time, that too will be resolved. Until then, I once again encourage folks to visit and join the CEP Forums now located at the following link:

nwncep.forumotion.com/forum
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               Every single piece of content in the CEP belongs to the original creator/owner and is only pakaged or added with permission, nothing else. No CEP person or project has the authority to decide what to do with all these creations. And to me the spirit of the CEP is dead because the once good idea to create a compilation of other artists fairness to share is long gone and now its only about who has what right and what will be done when person x tries to seek a way to make things working for his PW... This point here is what realy bothers me:sick:



Maybe you cep module builders free yourself from that and create a R (real)CEP with the original spirit in mind.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 28 juin 2012 - 04:28 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy__six]

               Yawn.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               I´m feeling an old heat uprising but control of baba yaga is fine now!!! Charms himself<3 edit="" for="" being="">

diademus: lets have a fight and set him straight...
babayaga: no precious, we now serve the master precious...'>
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 28 juin 2012 - 05:41 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_s e n]

               lolol
               
               

               
            

[Legacy__six]

               To clarify, as baba seems to think my yawn was directed at him: it wasn't, and in principle I agree with his comments on the CEP.

I just wonder how the CEP leadership think its operable to work on a NWN content package whilst going out of their way to avoid the NWN community at large, presumably because of a perception that everyone's at war with them. Thing is, I can't see anyone around here who's actively anti-CEP. And I've been the longest time artist in a group that's long been perceived as their rivals. Which... I suppose we are in as much as that Q have a similar, but more artistically oriented goal. I remember morikahn offered to give them all Q's fixes to the CODI content back in the day, and were told that they "didn't need them." (FYI, he told me he'd found some that they were lacking)

This whole negative attitude has become rather old hat. Particularly when there's not many of the older CC people left.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par _six, 28 juin 2012 - 07:59 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               forgive and forget:kissing: ...precious
               
               

               
            

[Legacy__six]

               

NWN_baba yaga wrote...

forgive and forget:kissing: ...precious

I must admit, I'm really curious what you said that made you censor yourself.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               I mentioned how F***** up it is trying to get an old module you´re interested in playing with a cep attached to it where you have to go through the process what version is backward compatible and  redownload the whole thing again just for 2 different tiny modules. And further along the lines of  "before you act silly do no comment at all". Sorry _six but i think they should care about this situation too because lots of interesting modules are not playable for me anymore and your comment was as helpfull as whatever.

And i changed my reply to my conversation between me and me;)

so i misunderstood your reply and well blah blah.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 28 juin 2012 - 08:29 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_SHOVA]

               I side with kalbaern on this one. Plain and simple, this community uses the C.E.P., this community has offered help to them, this community deserves better than it has gotten from some of the members of the current team, who may have forgotten that the C in the C.E.P. stands for community.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               Just curious - if the CEP Team were to be "replaced" by a team from the Community that didn't have the backing of the original team, what would become of all the content the "old team" have produced exclusively for the CEP?

Be careful what you wish for...
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Pstemarie, 28 juin 2012 - 08:52 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy__six]

               

NWN_baba yaga wrote...

I mentioned how F***** up it is trying to get an old module you´re interested in playing with a cep attached to it where you have to go through the process what version is backward compatible and  redownload the whole thing again just for 2 different tiny modules

That's a good point. And the way they reacted when a certain community member who may or may not have posted in this thread just a little way above tried to carry on the 1.x CEP and got shot down by the CEP team wasn't necessarily good operation either.

Though on that topic, wouldn't a single "downgrade" hak that contains the 1.x 2das modified to work to put on top of the 2.x content do the trick?