Toads and Frogs

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               I will see if i can dig up a video of the swallow attack from ToEE - if not, I will upload one (I have ToEE, so it shouldn't be too hard to get swallowed...hehe).

Here we have the Moathouse, with a description of how the grapple attack of the frog tongue works - and I would think that it would be transferrable to NWN. 

http://www.sorcerers...tHouseEntry.php

Perhaps extending the time it takes for the swallow - so that NPCs can have some time to kill the frog before it swallows you.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par WebShaman, 02 février 2013 - 09:48 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               hmm. The stomach or mouth of the frog is not nearly the size of a tileset you know guys. I dont have a better idea but not sure if i like that way to be honest. Maybe someone can try it like we did it with the "romantic animations" where 2 animations from the involved creatures are synchronized like i said previously. The attack and defense/helpless stance must be setup in a way that all phenotypes can use one supermodel anim so not every animation needs to be updated for under-the-table-walkers or bulky halforcs etc...
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 02 février 2013 - 11:54 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               One could make it a tail, right?  Just thinking outside of the box...
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Fester Pot]

               Here's a video of combat from the Temple of Elemental Evil and the giant frog attack.

FP!
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Fester Pot, 02 février 2013 - 03:41 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               there you can see that both are freezed. The frog doesnt even move when hit by the others and the "to be swallowed" guy cant act at all/ like paralysed.

So maybe something like a temporarily paralized effect on both. A drunk like looping animation for the PC/NPC and a looping custom animation for the frog. Sounds good?

@Webshaman
How can we use a tail for the frog when we cant tell the engine take this exactly looking PC/NPC and attach it as a  tail to the frog?. TO many variations of clothing etc.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 02 février 2013 - 04:50 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <not feeling...>

@ BY: I was actually planning something more along the lines of the illithid brain-eating anim. put a paralyze effect on player, the tongue-attack anim wraps the tongue around player, player spasms...

But after seeing the video... (Thanks FP!)

Now I'm thinking of Merricksdad's beams... make the tongue a beam?
Hold the frog & PC in position fighting against strength/size of opponent until it wins additional grapple attack.

Could be a PCish looking thing of waving arms & legs at end of tongue visible for a split second as it swallows. would be static (not showing actual armor/colors of PC) but might improve the anim... think about it.

Frog goes to bulging throat swallow state and PC goes cut-scene invis while being suffocated/killed. If escapes, PC reappears and frog returns to normal state.

Still thinking/planning. Won't get to this one until March. But I'm scheduling it for then.

I want this :-)

Oh, and little poison arrow frogs for familiars :-) Have a nasty recurring NPC antagonist...

<...particularly romantic>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               the Beam effect idea is great. Because it can stay on the PC´s origin it was targeted at while being fired/ tongued...Now we need a red beam for the tongue that has no magical stars or flares '> A monster node like the beholder has in the mouth of the frog where the tongue beam comes out. We need to make sure the tongue beam cant be used in a to far away position and only like "if in raidus of 4m then try to grapple" or so.

We´re definately on the right track:)
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 02 février 2013 - 04:57 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_henesua]

               I offer my services as an ability scripter for the frog's "tongue" spell.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               I've got some rough animations in for a new walk animation and have moved the "hop" to the run animation. I've also added simple appear/disappear and dead animations.

Baba, that "hop" animation looks pretty dang good and the distance moved from the 2da looks good. The walk animation I did also matches up quite nicely with the walk distance from the 2da.

These froggies will go pretty good with that Otyugh I've been working on...
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Pstemarie, 02 février 2013 - 06:56 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_henesua]

               Wait.... did the darkhorse on this project just ride off with it? '>

I love how these projects take on a life of their own, growing organically.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               @Pstemarie
You are always welcome to sent me over some files for the frog;) Maybe i might find a new interest growing... yes precious... the dark side of the toad seems very strong in you again precious '>

I mean together we are much better and quicker and with all our powers COMBINED YES PRECIOUS WE do the ultimatively uber super duper bullfrog dum dum töäättaattööö '>
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 02 février 2013 - 07:41 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               Sent you a PM baba - frog is in my dropbox
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Frith5]

               I have an old death system that 'clones' the PC exactly, including all gear worn. Could the actual PC be swittched out to an invisible appearance, frozen, while the clone is 'manipulated' by the frog? Or something like that? or am I nuts?

In my old death system, the cloned PC was killed when a PC died, and the actual PC was ported to an afterlife area with a timer until they were released, stripped of stuff and with 1 hp, at whatever placed they'd last selected as their 'born' spot. So, I think an exact appearance can be copied.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Frith5, 03 février 2013 - 02:56 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               Great find on the vid thing!

I absolutely love the line "it ate my bear!" - that gives me the giggles!

I really hope you guys get this thing done!
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Urk]

               *Sigh*

My very first skin was a frog. Good times.
http://vnmedia.ign.c...783_fullres.jpg
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Urk, 05 février 2013 - 06:54 .