Why Am I having Trouble Seeing CEP 2.4 Content??

[Legacy_Calvinthesneak]

               Well I can make you a hak up after work, if you tell me what phenotypes you need them for?

Just for riding?  Its phenotype 8.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_wyldhunt1]

               <Raises Hand>
If you decide to put in the effort, I could use them too...
In fact, a few people probably could.

What are the odds of me convincing you to post them on the vault?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Kurdt19XX]

               

Calvinthesneak wrote...

Well I can make you a hak up after work, if you tell me what phenotypes you need them for?

Just for riding?  Its phenotype 8.

I'm sorry but i don't understand what are you saying...
I saw the cep_top_24 and in the phenotype 2da number 8 is the jousting large phenotype.

The problem is for the new robes added in 2.4 (like surcoats, old greek short skirts, ecc..).
While you are on the ground you can wear it and move around the area, fight ecc.. so all animation for phenotype Normal and Large are looking good.
But if you mount a horse or a ridable creature robes doesn't work regardless of the original phenotype of the PC. Infact the result is what you can see in the picture that i posted.
Because i never make an hak i don't know what's to be done ....
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_wyldhunt1]

               If I understand the process correctly, which I may not...

You have to make a copy of the cloak mdl for each phenotype and re-name it to match the pheno line that you want it to work with.
Then, you have to open each of the mdls (notepad works) and find every instance of the old pheno line reference in the mdl and change it to the new line reference.

I think that's it (which is no small feat if there's a lot of cloaks).
I've been trying to find software to speed up the process for large groups of cloaks, but I haven't had a lot of luck yet.

btw, if there's more to it, I'd love to know before I get started on my own project of getting PRC and CEP working with horses, which is going to involve a lot of this stuff...
               
               

               

                     Modifié par wyldhunt1, 05 décembre 2011 - 09:13 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Kurdt19XX]

               May be....i don't know how fix this bugs 'cause i never edit an hak by myself.
However it could be more difficult than what are you think because i'm not talking about cloaks but robes.
I think that are totally missing the right model for the robes in tha hak pack of CEP2.4 for mounting phenotype...so only CEP Team Modeller can fix this bugs adding this model....but this is my opinion.

I hope they will do this soon but if there's someone able to smooth things over .... help us, please:lol:
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Kurdt19XX]

               

Calvinthesneak wrote...

Well I can make you a hak up after work, if you tell me what phenotypes you need them for?

Just for riding?  Its phenotype 8.

Sorry, I don't read this!!!

Yes i'd like have all the new robes added in v2.4 working when you are mounting a horse (I use 1.69's horses) for all phenotypes.
If you can fix the hak it could be the new release for CEP on the Vault! The problem is really widespread in italian community and for this reason nobody can use this new beutiful robes in their PW or Modules.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_wyldhunt1]

               It won't (Shouldn't) require any actual modeling. The way the models work in NWN, you don't need to make an entire new model for every cloak or robe. You make a single robe and cloak model and give it the animations that you need. Then, you can set that model as a "Supermodel" in the other cloak/robe mdl file. The new cloak/robes will reference the super model to get their animations.

That is what needs to be updated. You need cloaks/robes that list the correct supermodel in their mdl.
Hopefully, Calvinthesneak will decide to get them working for us because it would save a lot of time, and I've never actually done it. I've only read about it.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Kurdt19XX]

               Perfect now I understand....forgive me but I'm totally ingnorant in this aspect of NWN customization.
I also understand clearly that resolving this will take a lot of time and hard work so...I can only be grateful to all of you that are working and developing all this material.
And last but not list my english is not so good so please forgive some misunderstanding by myself.

I think that's all at the moment....i only hope there's an update of 2.4 'cause it's a shame that a lot of the contents doesn't work perfectly!
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Calvinthesneak]

               Wyldhunt has the right idea.  It's making the model inheret the correct supermodel.

I do not promise perfection as some of the custom animations for robes (such as a_fa_skirt) simply do not synchronize well.

And I'll have to apologieze, I have a meeting to prepare for tomorrow, so I cannot get it done tonight.

But using the tools NWN Armoury and Useful File Utilities, I can batch convert a phenotype fairly quickly once I set my base models.  I will try to have this done by the end of the week.

I cannot promise any support from CEP, because I simply do not know what they are up to.  The models will be "As provided".
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_wyldhunt1]

               "As Provided" is considerably more than we have now.
Thank you. It's appreciated.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Kurdt19XX]

               Thank a lot, Calvin!!!
If this could be usefull for you i've make a note about the robe's number to fix:

from 004 to 007
009
from 011to 025
from 027 to 043
062
065
from 067 to 069
from 081 to 085
088, 089
092, 093, 095, 097, 098
from 100 to 110
from 135 to 138

I'll be in touch!
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Kurdt19XX, 06 décembre 2011 - 04:57 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Calvinthesneak]

               Extremely useful thank you, now I don't have to go and search and figure out what items I need.  I assume you cross referenced that with male and female models?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Calvinthesneak]

               Hmmm some of your numbers listed are bioware standard, I would have thought that those would have been taken care of in the bioware bif files from the 1.69 patch.  Is your server running 1.69 or as an italian server do you use 1.68?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Calvinthesneak]

               Ok, so compiled whole list of CEP robes.  The ones with x's have copies in the phenotype hak.  The riding phenotype for normal is 3, not 8.  8 is the jousting phenotype.

10 x
11 
12 
26 
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100 
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110 x
111 x
112 x
113 x
114 x
115 x
116 x
117 
118 x
121 x
128 x
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131 x
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182 x
183 x
184 x
185 x
186 x
187 x
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200 x
201 
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                     Modifié par Calvinthesneak, 07 décembre 2011 - 04:12 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_wyldhunt1]

               Ack!
That's a lot of missing x's.