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Legacy_SuperFly_2000

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Minor error in minimap in CTP tileset Babylon
« on: September 25, 2011, 10:00:01 pm »


                Water not showing on minimap...

Also the same problem on the bigger oasis....


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Legacy_Bannor Bloodfist

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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 11:28:33 pm »


               Looks like I had "Display Alpha" turned off.  Or, it might be due to all the water tiles having animesh applied to them.

To fix that would require changes to a huge number of mini-maps.

Unfortunately, the source files for this entire set are gone.  We had to move servers for our SVN system, and Babylon didn't make the move.  We ran out of time checking everything out and uploading to the new server, before the old one was shut down.

The files on the vault are encrypted, and while we can decrypt them, we can not load any of the tiles with animesh applied to the water.  Animesh will not import correctly, and can actually cause 3dsmax to crash.

Soooo, without a copy of the originals, prior to Animesh being applied, I can't create new minimaps.

Sorry.

Edit:  It MAY be possible that one of the members of CTP during creation of Babylon, has a copy of the unencrypted files, but I will have to wait until one of those people speaks up.
               
               

               


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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 11:46:53 pm »


               Bannor, I often see you helping out with mini-maps. I dont want to hijack this thread but have you ever thought about fixing some of the missing mini-maps with Seasonal Forrest and Sen's Seasonal Workshop?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 12:00:54 am »


               Oh...now I just realised the water around the "citadel" in the center I built does not show as well (in the mini-map)...

Not a biggie though...I can probably survive this :-P

Its odd though...also noticed that taking a screenshot with a program i have in-game also didn't show water while a screenshot taken with Xfire DID show the water (talking about in-game now - not mini-map).
               
               

               


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Legacy_Bannor Bloodfist

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 12:03:28 am »


               

SuperFly_2000 wrote...

Oh...I see the water around the "citadel" in the center I built does not show as well (in the mini-map)...

Not a biggie though...I can probably survive this :-P

Its odd though...also noticed that taking a screenshot with a program i have in-game also didn't show water while a screenshot taken with Xfire DID show the water (talking about in-game now - not minimap).


That is likely due to the water being animated using the animesh option.  Some screen capture utils, don't actually STOP animation before capture, and the animesh is moving so they just don't see it.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Bannor Bloodfist

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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 12:06:56 am »


               

DM_Vecna wrote...

Bannor, I often see you helping out with mini-maps. I dont want to hijack this thread but have you ever thought about fixing some of the missing mini-maps with Seasonal Forrest and Sen's Seasonal Workshop?


Well, I can help with it I guess, but it would be nice if the author's of those sets actually requested it, since I would hate to have to put up a copy of their sets onto the vault, where the only change was the addition of minimaps.

I can't upload changes to the main sets, since I can't log into their accounts. (And NO, I have no wish to have their account login info.)

Adding a 2nd hack with the minimaps in place might work, but hak limits drive folks nuts as it is.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 12:31:51 am »


               Ummm...  Why were they encrypted to begin with?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 01:05:25 am »


               

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Ummm...  Why were they encrypted to begin with?


To make the hard work that CTP performed on this set harder to steal.

But that whole subject was beaten to death, long ago and I have no wish to re-enter that sort of discussion.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 01:25:43 am »


               I've got the whole CVSRepo directory (including the Babylon files) backed up on multiple harddrives, if that helps.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 02:13:13 am »


               

Estelindis wrote...

I've got the whole CVSRepo directory (including the Babylon files) backed up on multiple harddrives, if that helps.


Gawd yes!  I was hoping you might have it, but I didn't want to presume.

I lost my one major backup I had of babylon, thinking that CVS had it, I didn't worry about redownloading it.  Then when we lost the CVS system, it was too late.  My other backup folder on a different drive, doesn't have it either ':unsure:'
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 02:25:00 am »


               Well then, dear, I'll 7zip whatever content you need tomorrow and YouSendIt if it's not too big. :-)  PM or email me if you need anything particularly complicated.  ;-)
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 02:27:55 am »


               all I would need would be the uncomplied mdl files.  Although, I think the final CVS had only the compiled/encrypted ones...

But I don't need textures, or woks, etc, as they are all ok, just the mdls.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 02:30:44 am »


               Woo...if there is a microscopic chance of having this fixed that would be nice :-)
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 02:33:08 am »


               

SuperFly_2000 wrote...

Woo...if there is a microscopic chance of having this fixed that would be nice :-)


It all depends Superfly... if the mdls we can find all have the animesh applied, then we are out of luck, but if they are prior to that, then I should be able to recreate the minimaps for just the tiles with water.

We will have to see what Estelindis has, what version of the files etc... Since I won't actually be replacning the mdls in the hak, just adding/replacing the minimaps, I MAY be able to get around the issue with the animesh too.  Not sure yet though.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 03:48:15 am »


               

Bannor Bloodfist wrote...

3RavensMore wrote...

Ummm...  Why were they encrypted to begin with?


To make the hard work that CTP performed on this set harder to steal.


Ok, that should have been obvious to me.  Thanks.  It's a wonderful set btw.