Weasle's Romantic Animations

[Legacy_Jenna WSI]

               I saw this on a server, and was trying to locate it on the vault... just the romantic animations not the intimate ones. I found a website but no download.. anyone have this?

http://ninjaweaselman.sixsiders.com/#
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <looks really...>

Ooh! Ooh! I know this...!

It's included in Project Q =)

Estelindis wrote... <in this thread>
One more note on custom animations: Ninja Weasel Man's romantic animations are part of ProjectQ.  It seems most authors haven't done much with them, but Andarian's Sanctum of the Archmage series shows how they can give us some really tender moments:

and included a really great image :-)

I'm definitely looking at them, myself.

<...excited>
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Rolo Kipp, 19 septembre 2011 - 10:42 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Jenna WSI]

               Thank you. A friend showing me a few systems on Sinfar demonstrated these animations and others, and I was really impressed.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Jenna WSI, 20 septembre 2011 - 12:09 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Wall3T]

               @ Jenna WSI- A while ago i took great intrest in the same hak. And i managed to find the actual hak (before incorporated into Project Q). if its okay by the creators permission, i can give you the hak.

as far as trying to figure out how they work, im at a lost :-| im not very good at scripting so i abandoned the idea, but still kept the file
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               Hmmm...doesn't the OHS include some, as well?  I know there is the kissing animations when you give one of your henchies something nice...

Kind of a nice little "touch", if you ask me.  Wish OMB had included more stuff like that.

Nope, OMB says he just used default NWN animations.

My bad.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par WebShaman, 20 septembre 2011 - 03:10 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Failed.Bard]

               As a sidenote about his animations, making them work for the opposite gender requires copying them to a second phenotype, and linking all the racial base models to the opposite genders supermodel.  It's essentially a change of one or two letters for each racial type and gender to do the switch, and then tweak the spacings in the positioning scripts to accomodate the difference in base size.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Estelindis]

               Yes: in case anyone didn't see it in the other thread here, the Q forum has some useful information about these rather excellent animations.  In particular, the file "q_anims_inc" is mentioned as including handy functions specific to the animations.  Andarian has also made a handy demo module and user guide as part of one of the download packages for his Sanctum series, but since he obtained special permission to distribute a discrete RAS package for that series it can't be redistributed from his site.  Accordingly, I suggest checking that package out to get a grasp on how to use the animations and then using Project Q.  Alternatively, one could try to contact NWM to ask permission to redistribute his work, but I think it's been a while since he was active in the community.  Overall, if one doesn't want what might be a vain wait for a response, Q is the best bet.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_AndarianTD]

               Thanks for the shout-out, Este! For anyone interested, here's a short video clip also showing the Romantic Animations suite in action. '>

Failed.Bard wrote...

 As a sidenote about his animations, making them work for the opposite gender requires copying them to a second phenotype, and linking all the racial base models to the opposite genders supermodel.  It's essentially a change of one or two letters for each racial type and gender to do the switch, and then tweak the spacings in the positioning scripts to accomodate the difference in base size.

I'm confused by this, since the RAS animations are designed to work with characters of the opposite gender. Did you mean to write the same gender, or different races?

Estelindis wrote...

Andarian has also made a handy demo module and user guide as part of one of the download packages for his Sanctum series, but since he obtained special permission to distribute a discrete RAS package for that series it can't be redistributed from his site.  Accordingly, I suggest checking that package out to get a grasp on how to use the animations and then using Project Q.

*Nods* At the time I was helping him to test it, my understanding of his plans was that he was going to create a download page for it, either on the Vault or on his personal website. I agreed to help him finalize his demo module and to write up a documentation package for it, and he agreed to let me host it until he got around to distributing it himself. He never did, though, and appears in the end to have decided to release it only through Project Q.

For that reason I would recommend simply using Project Q (I believe you only need the q_race hak) for anyone who wants to use the RAS. I'll actually be doing that soon myself. With Sanctum of the Archmage V4.0 -- which I'm currently working on for a release this fall -- I will be updating the series to use Project Q, after which I won't need the standalone hak on my site any longer.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par AndarianTD, 21 septembre 2011 - 03:32 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Calvinthesneak]

               I belive Ninjaweaselman was going to use the default animation slots 11-20, that was his initial plan.

I helped him test a few other things when he was starting development.  Generally the way his animations work is that you assign a different phenotype to each actor (you define in phenotype.2da).  Then it's a matter of setting scripting up that will position and apply the correct animation to each actor.  So say for the dancing animation the male would play animation 11, and the female would be animation 16.  You can of course apply any one of the animations to a single char but they look sort of funny without the other animation to complete it.

Nightmood did some extensive work with his original adult animations to provide some exchanges for different races.  I haven't looked at the romantic animations so I can't say if it would be easier or harder.  Ninjaweaselman did have the animations as a standalone on his own blog/website for a time, but I cannot say if it remains.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_AndarianTD]

               

Calvinthesneak wrote...

I belive Ninjaweaselman was going to use the default animation slots 11-20, that was his initial plan.

The animations slots used by the RAS (Romantic Animations Suite) are identified in the documents and threads that Este linked to. They are:

ANIMATION_LOOPING_CUSTOM11 - Standing Kiss Animation
ANIMATION_LOOPING_CUSTOM12 - Lying Kiss (Man on Top)
ANIMATION_LOOPING_CUSTOM13 - Lying Kiss (Woman on Top)
ANIMATION_LOOPING_CUSTOM14 - Standing Hug Animation
ANIMATION_LOOPING_CUSTOM19 - Exotic Dance (Female Only)
ANIMATION_LOOPING_CUSTOM20 - Partner Dance (Waltz)

I helped him test a few other things when he was starting development.  Generally the way his animations work is that you assign a different phenotype to each actor (you define in phenotype.2da).  Then it's a matter of setting scripting up that will position and apply the correct animation to each actor... I haven't looked at the romantic animations so I can't say if it would be easier or harder.

Just for the record, the Romantic Animations suite doesn't involve a phenotype change. You can see that in the demo video I posted -- the transition to and from the kissing animation is smooth and doesn't have that "visual sutter" you normally see when characters change phenotypes. The different models (male and female phenotypes) will behave differently when playing the same animations, though, and are designed to "fit together" to make them work visually. That said, I found that they generally don't look too bad for same-pheno use either, as long as you tweak the starting positions a little.

Ninjaweaselman did have the animations as a standalone on his own blog/website for a time, but I cannot say if it remains.

No, he never did -- not for the Romantic Animations Suite. He did for the Intimate Animations Suite, but keep in mind that the RAS and the IAS are two wholly separate and different systems and packages. Had he ever put the RAS on his website, I would have linked to it in my Sanctum downloads instead of hosting a copy on my own website.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par AndarianTD, 21 septembre 2011 - 11:18 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Calvinthesneak]

               Sooo does Project Q combine Vaei's alternative animations into them as well (I know it would involve cleaning up some of the WCoC artifacts).

Ideal would be having all of those animations together.  I am afraid I an animation hack, and I tend to just chop and paste the animation sections together, but always wind up with some oddness, such as cloaks for male dwarves not working, or slightly misaligned female belts or something.

Anyhow if you look at: http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=1334
It is Vaei's animations I recompiled in slots 11-20.  Anyhow down in the comments Ninjaweaselman said at some point he was going to try and compile both sets together, I don't know if he ever did.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Jenna WSI]

               I have to agree, it would be much easier to have all the animations in one hak, with instructions. >.<

One thing I noticed testing it in Sinfar was that some of the animations don't work across different races. Would be nice to get that fixed somehow, if the maker doesn't mind.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Jenna WSI, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:09 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Failed.Bard]

               

AndarianTD wrote...

Failed.Bard wrote...

As a sidenote about his animations, making them work for the opposite gender requires copying them to a second phenotype, and linking all the racial base models to the opposite genders supermodel. It's essentially a change of one or two letters for each racial type and gender to do the switch, and then tweak the spacings in the positioning scripts to accomodate the difference in base size.

I'm confused by this, since the RAS animations are designed to work with characters of the opposite gender. Did you mean to write the same gender, or different races?

  All of his animations, from both the romantic and intimate animation suites, are designed to only work by default for a male/female pairing.
  Making it so that you can have a m/m or f/f pairing is most easily done by setting up the animations on a seperate phenotype and linking them to the opposite genders supermodel within that pheno.
  That allows for a female to lead in the waltz, for example, and the "male" and "female" roles are determined entirely by which player initiates the animation, instead of an arbitrary gender check.

  Because the positionings are set based on a m/f of the same race, positioning tweaks are then needed to keep the spacings looking correct, and cross race matches are harder still to line up properly.  Using the waltz again as an example, a human female would likely have to be paired with an elf (male or female) for the hands to line up when she leads.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_3RavensMore]

               

Failed.Bard wrote...
  All of his animations, from both the romantic and intimate animation suites, are designed to only work by default for a male/female pairing.
  Making it so that you can have a m/m or f/f pairing is most easily done by setting up the animations on a seperate phenotype and linking them to the opposite genders supermodel within that pheno.
  That allows for a female to lead in the waltz, for example, and the "male" and "female" roles are determined entirely by which player initiates the animation, instead of an arbitrary gender check.

  Because the positionings are set based on a m/f of the same race, positioning tweaks are then needed to keep the spacings looking correct, and cross race matches are harder still to line up properly.  Using the waltz again as an example, a human female would likely have to be paired with an elf (male or female) for the hands to line up when she leads.

This is a few leagues over my head, but it would be an amazing treat (and surprise!) for my ladies on little our PW.

<tips her head to those more talented than she> 
               
               

               

                     Modifié par 3RavensMore, 21 septembre 2011 - 09:34 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Jenna WSI]

               It's over my head too... but I'm going to see if the guy that does haks for Sinfar would add it and share the results with us.