Medieval City

[Legacy_Cestus Dei]

               

Zwerkules wrote...
@Cestus Dei: If you look at the pictures provided by TSMDude and Ben Harrison in this thread (the third one from TSMDude and the second exterior one from Ben Harrison) you'll know what my inspiration for the dwarven temple is.

Ahh, Those'll do. I thank ye.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Cestus Dei]

               

Quillmaster wrote...
My problem with bridge placement in the end seemed to be that the grass on the south bank needed to be 2 tiles deep which wasn't immediately obvious from the screenshot, but I got there in the end.

I seem ta be having other problems, then:

• Will not place as a corner group surrounded by grass
• Will place on the edge surrounded by grass
• Will not place on edge if upper right is cobble
• Will place on edge if upper left is cobble or grass
• will place on edge if completely surrounded by un-raised grass
• result of the last.

My great admiration for this set, and this is a niggly bit, but it does exist.

[drains his mug and calls for more]
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Zwerkules]

               My guess is that there is only a limited number of actions the toolset can do at a time (especially when it comes to removing doors *sigh*).
Placing the group near an edge works better because there are fewer tiles that have to be raised.
If you raise the grass terrain to the south in your first picture, you'll be able to place the group.
Placing the group like you tried in the third picture doesn't work because there's some grass terrain that has to be turned into cobble terrain and has to be raised while at the same time there's some cobble terrain that has to be changed to grass. If you do that before you place the group, you shouldn't have problems placing it.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Zwerkules, 06 novembre 2011 - 09:29 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Cestus Dei]

               

Zwerkules wrote...
My guess is that there is only a limited number of actions the toolset can do at a time (especially when it comes to removing doors *sigh*).
Placing the group near an edge works better because there are fewer tiles that have to be raised.
If you raise the grass terrain to the south in your first picture, you'll be able to place the group.
Placing the group like you tried in the third picture doesn't work because there's some grass terrain that has to be turned into cobble terrain and has to be raised while at the same time there's some cobble terrain that has to be changed to grass. If you do that before you place the group, you shouldn't have problems placing it.

Aye, that's got it.

Good ta keep in mind.
*shakes head sadly*
Never thought I'd see tha day me tools were lazy.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_TheOneBlackRider]

               ...wishlist:
- roads leading up raised grassy areas
- a neat connection of roads on grass towards cobble
- footpaths and a few more little huts/houses on grass? (This way, the tileset could also be used for nice rual places)
... well, just a whishlist '>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Zwerkules]

               TheOneBlackRider, I don't want this tileset to have more than 1500 tiles and it already has over 700 without the cliffs, alleys, castle terrain and a lot of groups that are still missing.
There'll be a separate rural tileset anyway which will have a terrain at half the height of the grass terrain which can be used between grass terrain and raised grass terrain where you don't want the slopes to be so steep. It will also have a ridge crosser. These are all crossers and terrains I don't want to include in this tileset to keep the tilecount low.
Most of the things on your wishlist are also things that should go into the separate rural tileset. Except for the roads on grass crossing over to cobble terrain. Those obviously have to go into the medieval city tileset. And since there already are roads on grass in this tileset I'll also make them work on hills - if I can still fit them in after I added the terrains I still have to make.
The huts, houses, windmills, watermills and quarries will be in the rural tileset, along with fields and a coast.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Zwerkules, 13 novembre 2011 - 01:42 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_TheOneBlackRider]

               You are the boss '>
Ok, I like tilesets, which can be used in more than "just" one direction, so people don't have to download too many additional content to play a server. But your argument, to not let it grow too large, is a good one. ATM your tileset shows up pretty fast within the toolset, which is good! I'm using some, which take way too long (IMO) to open - but too late to step back for me...
So, to keep it low is a good idea.
It's just a wish and thoughts from my side! Your're the creator! And it's a jewel already.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Kalindor]

               I hope that God had a forum such as this with people asking for features when he created the universe. '>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_YeOlde]

               I must say, I wait eagerly for this to update, It's already great, and I am using it in a new project. Are you going to make a rural tileset seperated from the city tileset, or are you going to pack everyting into the same tileset?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               this tileset is so cool...same as with other new content that the problem is to me. how can i keep everything on a level of equal design quality...
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_YeOlde]

               I have made some testing, and it seems that the tile Main Light 1 and Main Light 2 is causing alot of lag.

When I used the standard Exterior Dark Visual my framrate was around 16 FPS
When I turned all the Main Light black, my framrate changed to 155 FPS
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_henesua]

               AFAIK that is a known issue that Zwerkules has addressed fairly well. From what I can see with this tileset, lag does not happen when just one or two lights are on. So you might find that if you scale back which lights you use, you won't have a lag problem.

Zwerkules is the expert though. Sometime back he and LoW and others attacked this problem.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_YeOlde]

               I have made some further research, and I have found out that the Main Light in combination with some buildings cause great lag. I have made some screenshots here, showing which buildings. I hope this can be some help to you Zwerkules!










And the final picture is a screenshot with my properties on a 15x14 area, full with lights
               
               

               

                     Modifié par YeOlde, 27 novembre 2011 - 11:50 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Zwerkules]

               Thanks for reporting this, YeOlde. This is the same old bug I had fixed before with the nDynamicType of the lights being 0 instead of 1.
All the tiles which have those lights and which I edited again after I had changed nDynamicType to 1 have set that value back to 0. I know for sure that I didn't set it back, so this must happen when exporting the tiles from gmax.


From now on each time I change one of those tiles with the orange lights in the windows I'll check the file in a text editor afterwards to make sure nDynamicType is still set to 1.

I'm checking all the tiles with the orange lights in a text editor now (nearly done). With the next update this bug will hopefully be crushed once and for all.
EDIT: I finished checking the file and most of them were okay, except for those you have in your screenshots and one other tile (tcm01_c18_04) which probably caused the worst lag because it had two lights which had nDynamicType set to 0.
The tiles that cause lag now but will be fixed in the next update are:
tcm01_c01_01
tcm01_c01_05
tcm01_c04_02
tcm01_c04_06
tcm01_c04_07
tcm01_c18_04


If you want to avoid lag there's one more thing you should make sure and that is that you don't use many tiles with the conifers on them. I once changed every tile that has a variation with one of those trees on it to that variation to get a lot of trees because it looked nice, but that caused bad lag.

Usually there are enough tile variations without trees though, so that this won't be a problem.
But if your area is laggy and you see that you have a lot of those trees in it, change some of the tiles to variations without trees.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Zwerkules, 15 décembre 2011 - 08:48 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Nostrebor]

               Several months ago you mentioned that you would make some ruined walls.  I think a collapsed "battlement walk" would be pretty useful.  I would want the breach to be passable.  A collapsed corner would also be nice.