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Legacy_Shadooow

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« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2010, 03:25:08 pm »


               

Jez_fr wrote...

ShaDoOoW wrote...

Hmm I wanted to make Dread Pirate prestige class, now just started and I find out that this prestige class is already completed by Kaedrin for NWN2. Have it any sense to make it for NWN1 then, maybe a bit differently?


That would be a nice addition, sure. But please if you include Kaedrin's work, be sure to ask him first, then credit him, as teamwork, and also it would need a guide to include this in a module of course. Other than that that would be real nice to have other things than models too.

Im doing it from scratch, I won't bother to porting as I have never messed with NWN2 2das yet. I just borrowed the prestige class description from Kaedryn so I didn't had to rewrite it from the pdf manual I have (where is is scanned image, cannot be copied). But otherwise I changed it quite much to make it more powerfull and friendly. I don't include any custom icons and there won't be any "automatic" feat that needs to have code somewhere in module to allow as easier importing as possible. I added sneak attack but for this reason Im adding BG's version, so the BG/pirate combo won't work very well, but it allows sneak stacking for rogue/pirate combo which is more usual. So user have to just merge three 2das - classes, feat, spell, tlk and import erf with few scripts.

Still quite hard to do, so I will surely add installation instructions. Don't worry.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Rubies

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« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2010, 05:22:15 pm »


               I was working on a placeable cannon as my first attempt at a "from scratch" placeable, but I think I might've overdone it on the polys, and now I'm too embarassed to post it. '<img'>
               
               

               


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Legacy_Jez_fr

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« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2010, 05:31:45 pm »


               

Rubies wrote...

I was working on a placeable cannon as my first attempt at a "from scratch" placeable, but I think I might've overdone it on the polys, and now I'm too embarassed to post it. '<img'>


Don't. how many polys?
Just post a screenshot, so we can see it. Don't be shy =)
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Rubies

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« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2010, 06:01:27 pm »


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It's 480 polys, and has a 'firing' animation of 30 frames, still currently untextured but I've already made a dark metal for the cannon and a silver for the framing. ':lol:'

Main culprit for the high poly size is the barrel itself, and I think I should get around to redoing it before I apply the textures. ':pinched:'
               
               

               


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« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2010, 06:03:25 pm »


               Cool.

480 polys isn't remotely too much for a placeable, by the way.  That's about the appropriate amount for a weapon.

I've seen popular, widely used placeables run into the thousands of polys and do just fine.
               
               

               


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« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2010, 06:10:49 pm »


               Yeah, 480 is nothing to worry about. Looking good so far!
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2010, 06:18:05 pm »


               

Rubies wrote...
It's 480 polys, and has a 'firing' animation of 30 frames, still currently untextured but I've already made a dark metal for the cannon and a silver for the framing. ':lol:'

Main culprit for the high poly size is the barrel itself, and I think I should get around to redoing it before I apply the textures. ':pinched:'


No, don't cut the polycount on the barrel (I'm personnally fed up with cubic style in NWN >.> ). To the countrary, I would add more to the squared base. I think that it lowers a lot the overall look wich is a shame since the rest is really nice.

and trust me at 480 polys you are really deep into the "green light", as an exemple look at this http://img203.images...tj02v030000.jpg
I can tell you the game doesn't notice the tenths of thousands of polys here. Sure it depends on the computer, but still, you're pretty safe with 480 or even a few thousands.
(Please you who want to reply an off topic answer on that picture, please DON'T, thanks)

BTW Thanks to join the fray Rubies =)
(oops and I would at least double the width of the wheel to support the weight of such a bronze gun if you don't mind me '<img'>)
               
               

               


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« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2010, 06:35:23 pm »


               Yah, that cannon body should be fine (and looks really great, by the way). If anything I'd suggest redoing the base and particularly the wheels - giving them a solid rim, for instance, rather than the present mix of differently sized triangles just sorta sitting there. While the current wheel design looks very nice and ornamental, I'm not sure it'd actually hold the weight. A Torus object with a series of internal Cylinders may be the best approach for a more realistic wheel style.
               
               

               


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Legacy_Rubies

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« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2010, 06:35:50 pm »


               I'll put a bit more detail into the base, then! I was scared if I was pushing on the edge of accepted poly amounts. '<img'>

And as odd as it sounds, making these models is a nice break from the weeks of clothing models and parts, having a ton of fun with it. '<img'>

Edit: Hum, I'll take a look at the wheels too, then. '<img'>
               
               

               


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« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2010, 07:17:50 pm »


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Not sure if that's any better! '^_^'

...I tend to have a habit of over-cutifying stuff, I know. '<img'>

760 polys with the added little bits.
               
               

               


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« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2010, 07:36:46 pm »


               Well I'm certainly feeling it. Though if I may I might suggest moving the wheels further back along the barrel (or making the gun barrel longer) as it looks a wee bit off kilter as is.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Rubies

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« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2010, 07:53:19 pm »


               'Posted

Slightly lengthened the barrel, and moved the wheels back a tiny bit.
               
               

               


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« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2010, 08:20:02 pm »


               Please spare the CC n00b from walking the plank! I'm new to this, especially being I can't model and I'm "average" in photoshop (using CS1, lol!).

The standard pirate flag is weak compared to the flags (models) from 1.69. So I may come up with a few variations. This is just one I whipped up today.

I used the DLA flags from 1.69 as the base model hoping I edited it manualy in txt format right. The texture is based on screen grabs of the rapier and skeleton heads. Steer me in the right direction if I'm doing something wrong. :-)

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« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2010, 08:23:12 pm »


               Looks good to me, Defiance!
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2010, 10:50:08 pm »


               'Posted

Would love some feedback on it, and thanks for the suggestions so far. I think it's about done, though! '<img'>

Total poly count: 916.

It's quite... a lot more than I expected, if I'm honest. ':unsure:'
               
               

               


                     Modifié par Rubies, 19 septembre 2010 - 10:03 .