any news about NWN Reboot or NWN 3?

[Legacy_brisingr90]

               

as Title, is there news update about this AWESOME game?

 

I played this game when I was still in elementary and till this day it still influenced me as a gamer. I am just hoping there will be a continuity for this game.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

There is Dragon Age, but no attempt at NWN3, likely because of the EA versus Infragames dilemma which then became the Hasbro versus Atari lawsuit.  It would be easy for EA to cooperate with Hasbro to get other DND games launched, but that particular title seems unable to be resurrected for another sequel.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Proleric]

               Of course, NWN1 is still a popular tool for fan-made campaigns, with a huge library of excellent offerings on the new vault.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_OfficerDonNZ]

               

The closest thing I've seen that comes close is a game called Sward Coast Legends. It uses whatever the current DnD rule set. Due out later in the year and here's the kicker only available through Steam from what I can see.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Knight Teore]

               

From what I understand the moddability still won't come even remotely close to what NWN offered. I'm hoping for the better but incredibly skeptical still. I'd recommend keeping an eye out for Sword Coast Legends, all the same.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               

Of course not, most game developers are too scared to give said powers to their players/consumers.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Aelis Eine]

               

In due time I think.

 

Valve and Bethesda have started monetizing mods. It's a hamfisted attempt, but the pieces will start to fall in place from there.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_OldTimeRadio]

               

Right now, there's only one person and one company that's actively trying to reboot/overhaul NWN: Trent Oster and Beamdog/Overhaul Games, which he's the president of.  Trent is very open and up front and that's kind of a hallmark of his.  From public statements he's made in the last six or so months, Beamdog has variously tried to both acquire licensing for the Aurora engine for an unrelated project and license the engine for an overhauled, enhanced edition.  On the first count, EA would not allow licensing of the Aurora engine and it was Trent's impression that they would not be likely to ever license it again, unless it was for a NWN overhaul.  On the second count, because of the Neverwinter MMO, it is very difficult to get the myriad of people who are needed to sign off to do it.  Namespace issues, basically.  The fear of naming confusion is a big one but even if that were not a concern anymore, the number of people who would have to sign off on an overhaul of NWN are astronomical.

 

However, interestingly, he still occasionally mentions that he does keep trying.  By his own account, an overhaul of NWN is not likley to be allowed for at least a year or two more.

 

As far as Sword Coast Legends goes, I recomment people read their forums and carefully watch their community Twitch broadcasts- especially the broadcasts.  There is something not right with that game's development.  Not for a game which has been in development "several years" and which is slated for release in September.  I'm sure the guys who are making it are good people but I can't watch those Twitch broadcasts without my b.s. meter and warning sirens going off.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               Thanks for the update OTR!


I hope Trent succeeds.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Proleric]

               

In due time I think.

 

Valve and Bethesda have started monetizing mods. It's a hamfisted attempt, but the pieces will start to fall in place from there.

 

Yes, I saw that announcement, too, but I don't think it will help the D&D community, since I'm not aware of any new D&D games that might provide the toolset and content for modders to get started. Given all the copyright issues already mentioned, I wouldn't expect one any time soon.

 

Probably just as well. The NWN community thrives, and is a nice place to be, because we help one another, share content between builders on open license (with minor exceptions) and don't impose artistic constraints. Last I heard, Valve and Bethesda heavily censor fan-made work. In my experience, Skyrim has a rather unpleasant, cut-throat modder culture, which opposes open content, even when it makes commercial sense. No doubt monetized mods will make that even worse.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Savagefool]

               

While that's all true, think of what we could do on a new NWN with far less work. Even adding VR Implementation becomes possible

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Gruftlord]

               Far less work? The technical limitations of nwn mean that it does require far less work to get a good adventure going than in any recent game. You won't see anything of the depth of an aielund  saga for any of the current generation of games, at least not as far as hobbyist work is considered.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_OldTimeRadio]

               

While that's all true, think of what we could do on a new NWN with far less work. Even adding VR Implementation becomes possible

Just so you know, NWN 1 probably wouldn't have to be changed much or at all to play under a future VR system.  Since active shutter display glasses went on sale in the late 1990's and all the way up to NVidia's most recent "3D Vision", OpenGL wrappers have been used to "convert" games over to whatever the new viewing paradigm is.  It's not usually that big a deal.

 

It's a much bigger deal to find people who can afford the VR headsets! 

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Savagefool]

               

Heh you assume I don't know what I'm talking about I see '>

It wont be that much, Oculus rift comes out at the end of the year (For around $200-300) along with HTC Vive. And even less than that if you go for a mobile VR experience via the Gear VR.

Nwn1 would be extremely difficult to make into a comfortable vr experience,

it's not just a case of creating side by side images with FOV changes via a VorpX plugin unless your playing on a virtual cinema screen.

While that's an experience, it's not what I was really talking about.

You should listen to the legend that is John Carmack for a better idea of the challenges.

 

For your enjoyment if you love Johns super technical off the standard PR message talks:

 

But anyway, just to mention a few, fps needs to be 90+ at all times.

Positional tracking data to be considered.

UI issues.

Low persistence is vital.

 

Then think about if a single-threaded, single CPU based game can achieve this.

Even things like maintaining correct draw calls for framerate.

 

To back up what I say... The information is here, as given by pretty much all the top in the industry:

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020714

It's nowhere near as easy as your making out. Infact.. it's not easy at all.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Savagefool]

               

Far less work? The technical limitations of nwn mean that it does require far less work to get a good adventure going than in any recent game. You won't see anything of the depth of an aielund saga for any of the current generation of games, at least not as far as hobbyist work is considered.

 

I get where your coming from, games like skyrim, goat simulator etc etc etc have a nice depth too.