Author Topic: Do you cheat? (Read 1523 times)

Legacy_Nick The Noodle · « **on:** October 16, 2014, 07:49:37 pm »

I always do so with one element, and that is hitpoints. I didn't used to do it, even after I first started playing NWN2 for a while, and found that all PC's in that game had max hp's.

In my case I was playing a standard Elf Wizard in the OC with 12 con. At level 10, I had only 37 hitpoints and kept dying. Since then I've always rerolled my HP's to be maximised. My bad, but I don't lose sleep over it.

On the otherhand, with one exception, I've never used the DebugMode to gain experience. It defeats the whole point of the game imho. The one time I did do it was in Kingmaker to see when the last benefit was gained for my weapon. Turns out to be level 19.

As far as kit is concerned I will sometimes go into a module to pick up free bits of kit to start another module with. For example, I love BR1 -the Fall of Ulad, but starting can be a bit of a downer. If you are not careful, and if you are not lucky, you will die within a minute of starting, and that's even knowing the best course of action. However, by taking a level 1 character into Vertex 1 - State of the Union, getting the free stuff, and ditching it in BR1 when you make level 2, I don't lose sleep over that either.

If I were playing a multi player game, all cheating would be abhorrent.

If its just me playing solo, then if I decide to cheat, the only person I can cheat is myself.

Do you cheat?

Legacy_Squatting Monk · « **Reply #1 on:** October 16, 2014, 08:43:10 pm »

I don't really consider re-rolling to be cheating as long as the module is balanced for max-HP characters. Especially since you can avoid having to re-roll hit points by setting Max Hit Points=1 in nwnplayer.ini.

Legacy_Empyre65 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 16, 2014, 11:00:53 pm »

I don't really consider re-rolling to be cheating as long as the module is balanced for max-HP characters. Especially since you can avoid having to re-roll hit points by setting Max Hit Points=1 in nwnplayer.ini.

That has been such a time-saver since I finally learned about that.

Legacy_henesua · « **Reply #3 on:** October 16, 2014, 11:36:10 pm »

never ask for permission.

Legacy_MagicalMaster · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2014, 02:47:29 am »

Yeah, authors usually balance assuming everyone has max HP, it's hardly cheating.

Legacy_Shadooow · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2014, 03:13:49 am »

isnt max hitpoints=1 (new since this was added in patch) default state actually ?

Legacy_WhiZard · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2014, 04:41:17 am »

Nope. By default you still roll from 1/2 HP to full HP.

Legacy_MrZork · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2014, 08:13:43 am »

               For the first 3 levels, I think the game automatically gives max HP. After that, that INI variable must be set. It can be quite tedious otherwise, especially on PWs when playing with dwarven defenders or barbarians or taking levels with lots of skills or spells to pick. I almost always wait until others are resting or until we are done with the run so that other players don't have to wait while my toon gets decent HP.

Fortunately, it was easy to modify the CBC so that I can know what the max HP that will show up in the leveling summary screen for each level. It isn't always straightforward because the extra HP from some feats (e.g. Toughness) will show up there and others (e.g. Great Constitution) will not.

Legacy_Nick The Noodle · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2014, 08:45:41 am »

I don't really consider re-rolling to be cheating as long as the module is balanced for max-HP characters. Especially since you can avoid having to re-roll hit points by setting Max Hit Points=1 in nwnplayer.ini.

Where do I find this file?

Just looked in my NWN folder and its not there? Could not find it using the search function either?

Legacy_MagicalMaster · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2014, 10:09:48 am »

It'll look something like this:

Legacy_Nick The Noodle · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2014, 12:06:20 pm »

It'll look something like this:

I seem to missing all the nwn files shown on your drive, including nwnplayer.ini?

Edit: Found a notepad file called nwnplayer and changed the Hitpoints = 1. That has done the trick, so I'm happy.

Thanks to all who replied.

Legacy_MagicalMaster · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2014, 05:37:05 pm »

Sounds like you don't have extensions displayed under your general computer settings, which may help. Also, some of that is NWNCX and NWNTX related so you might not have it, but glad you got it working.

Legacy_Nick The Noodle · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2014, 06:22:37 pm »

Sounds like you don't have extensions displayed under your general computer settings, which may help. Also, some of that is NWNCX and NWNTX related so you might not have it, but glad you got it working.

I have no idea how to have all my extensions displayed, but thanks for the last comment.

Legacy_rjshae · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2014, 06:32:08 pm »

I don't consider it cheating if the game engine lets you do it. All you're doing is lowering your challenge level via other means. But personally I don't use such methods unless it's needed to work around a known bug.

Legacy_Nick The Noodle · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2014, 07:55:11 pm »

I don't consider it cheating if the game engine lets you do it. All you're doing is lowering your challenge level via other means. But personally I don't use such methods unless it's needed to work around a known bug.

I certainly see your point and can respect it 'B)' .

However, I like all my characters to be equal(ish) at the same level, especially if the same race and class. Also, when I played the game with pen and paper, as a GM I always gave the players maximum hitpoints. It prevented cheating, and made the modules easier to construct knowing the players actual capabilities.

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