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« on: April 06, 2014, 01:01:35 pm »


               

Level 984 Monk WM DD:


 


Very strong melee. 10 attacks per round @ 120+ ab with 13-20 crit threat. 172 ac. 40% dmg immunity. 45 resist all. 10k hp. And deals about 12-13k damage on a critical hit.


 



 


 


 


Old video when lvl 600 was cool. This is a junk palemaster wizard aoe grinding some caster packs in a cool area.


 




               
               

               
            

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2014, 03:44:48 am »


               

Please don't let anyone be mislead by this. Skipp is a real player, but the world does not move as fast as in that vid... Interesting vids though Skipp. Thanks for posting them.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2014, 03:05:27 am »


               

This poster also neglected to leave out the fact that he was 10 Monk, 7 WM, and 23 DD.


 


As it turned out this individual was using an exploited build on our world. This has been rectified. Our high lvl areas are not near the walk in the park this person was trying to make them out to be.


 


I can't control who posts what about Av3, but I can respond about what is the truth of Aventia 3 Merged- Unlimited Levels.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2014, 02:57:45 pm »


               

Doesn't really make a difference what class is in that 3rd slot. 1 Monk + 7 WM + XXX is pretty much autowin in that realm. The fighter variant of my DD has more AC/AB/DMG/EHP, he could still sit there in that map surrounded by 20 monsters spamming Fall Down Backwards and never die. Even without uncanny dodge.


 


For someone with such little time on their hands, you sure spend an aweful lot of it trying to discredit me and make me look bad. Your own Dungeon Master exploited the same build, and I am the bad guy for using it.


 


Anyways, like I said, DD eventually sucks since you can get like 180 ac on a dexxer and be crit immune to every monster in the game. It would be in anyone's interest to just roll a lower EHP toon with rogue or more monk speed instead. It's not even an exploit, if i wanted to exploit I woulda just removed all class requirements completely and played a real hacked toon instead.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2014, 12:20:51 am »


               

Indeed I am currently working 6 days a week, and am back in school. A big part of the reason why I don't have time for your sh1t any more. But it doesn't take a lot of time to make a post.


 


Angel hasn't been a DM on Av3 in a long time.


 


The fact is lots of builds are viable in Av3. It is true some perform better than others if you are all about DPS. I would wager it's pretty rare to find a world where this is not true to some degree. The fun factor is a consideration for others though (not yourself obviously), and your reaction to my uncovering your build exploit speaks volumes as to the content of your character.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2014, 10:22:50 am »


               

Lazarus, are you sure this player cheated? All a player need to compose this build is an item with "Bonus feat: Whirlwind" or "Bonus feat: Toughness". IF there are items like this in your world, and due to its uberness I suspect there are, this is absolutely legit usage of the items you made...



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2014, 08:37:57 pm »


               

FWIW, what Shadooow said is exactly what this player claimed to do.


 


"Thanks for all your time and effort sir, but I have been banned from that realm for using bonus feat: Whirlwind to take WM early on a monk build. Despite still taking all of the feats later on."


 


I'm not sure I'd agree with Shadooow that it's an absolutely legitimate use of the items but unless you as the admin have said not to abuse that trick then banning seems a bit extreme -- it's not hacking 2da files or something and it's considered perfectly fine on some worlds.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2014, 12:59:37 am »


               

Performing this trick was only a gain of a flat 55 mitigation from abusing a really wierd system that is used for determining who can wear what amount of damage resistance on items. Taking a single more lvl of monk would have dropped my items from 45 resistance to 40 resistance.


 


At lower lvls of gameplay this could be a large benefit until the player was able to obtain a gamebreaking lvl of armor class. At which point I was like OMFG this is OP.... I do not need DD or resists at this point rofl.


 


But considering the time and annoyance of having to create an entirely new set of equipment in the toolset and wait for implementation, I never bothered to relevel the character as Rogue. Which would be insanely overpowered with so many attacks per round. 


 


Kinda cool to see you guys stick up for me. I understand the exact bug in which I performed to achieve this character, its been a "feature" for over a decade. I consider it to be a mild exploit, but also a use of ingame mechanics on that particular server. Surely not an uber 2da hack.. that isnt even needed with such powerful melee characters there. Charge Casting could be considered a really bad exploit as well, when used in conjunction with certain server crashing spells such as Ice Storm or Hellball, or simply too many charges.  I consider the replication of that bug to be a form of art when performed solo. And after 12 years of NWN gameplay, I must have a lot of these tricks to keep me interested. It's weird I know.... 


 


It is much more probable this individual finally became too annoyed with my constant pleas for improvements to spellcaster gameplay and my perpetual bug reports and balancing concerns. He has never been a fan of recieving any kind of feedback from me. Which is too bad because I have an unusual amount of knowledge of this game, both its strengths and weaknesses alike.


 


Thanks again fellas, continue with your awesome work improving this game as  best as you can! I'll probably get a chance to play again next winter :-)



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2014, 02:10:09 am »


               


Performing this trick was only a gain of a flat 55 mitigation from abusing a really wierd system that is used for determining who can wear what amount of damage resistance on items. Taking a single more lvl of monk would have dropped my items from 45 resistance to 40 resistance.


 


At lower lvls of gameplay this could be a large benefit until the player was able to obtain a gamebreaking lvl of armor class. At which point I was like OMFG this is OP.... I do not need DD or resists at this point rofl.


 


But considering the time and annoyance of having to create an entirely new set of equipment in the toolset and wait for implementation, I never bothered to relevel the character as Rogue. Which would be insanely overpowered with so many attacks per round. 


 


Kinda cool to see you guys stick up for me. I understand the exact bug in which I performed to achieve this character, its been a "feature" for over a decade. I consider it to be a mild exploit, but also a use of ingame mechanics on that particular server. Surely not an uber 2da hack.. that isnt even needed with such powerful melee characters there. Charge Casting could be considered a really bad exploit as well, when used in conjunction with certain server crashing spells such as Ice Storm or Hellball, or simply too many charges.  I consider the replication of that bug to be a form of art when performed solo. And after 12 years of NWN gameplay, I must have a lot of these tricks to keep me interested. It's weird I know.... 


 




That pretty much sums it up.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2014, 02:31:10 am »


               


It is much more probable this individual finally became too annoyed with my constant pleas for improvements to spellcaster gameplay and my perpetual bug reports and balancing concerns. He has never been a fan of recieving any kind of feedback from me. Which is too bad because I have an unusual amount of knowledge of this game, both its strengths and weaknesses alike.


 


 




As anyone who is involved with Aventia 3 Merged knows I have a bug reports thread on our board specifically so I can adress any issues we uncover (and are within our means to adress.) This is a perfect example of the additude Skipp has which parcipitated his temporary ban.  Our change log is a long testiment to bugs I have addressed in the three years I have stewarded the mod, amongst other modification or additions to the module.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 02:38:17 am »


               


Lazarus, are you sure this player cheated? All a player need to compose this build is an item with "Bonus feat: Whirlwind" or "Bonus feat: Toughness". IF there are items like this in your world, and due to its uberness I suspect there are, this is absolutely legit usage of the items you made...




I do not think using an item to bypass feat or class requirements is generally considered "legit". I was not even aware of this "feature" until all of this, even after playing NWN1 for over 10 years. I guess I just don't seek out exploits enough as a player.


 


Our world has been around for over 10 years, and has well over 10k custom items in it. 11,245 to be exact. It has had well over 100 people involved in it's development, and I only became the stweard of it a little less than 3 years ago. I hardly know all of the items by heart even after being a player here since 2003.


 


Our community depends on players reporting bugs when they find them. This is pretty normal for player driven content. In fact it even happens in official releases (why do you think patches come out?) Skipp was well aware of this fact, and was one of only 2 players (out of a player vualt containing well over 4k accounts) to exploit this.


 


I understand I may be coming off as a hardass here, but I have known Skipp through association with Av for many years, and my reaction to him is the cummulative result of all of that. You all don't know him like I have had the privledge of.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2014, 02:38:55 am »


               


FWIW, what Shadooow said is exactly what this player claimed to do.


 


"Thanks for all your time and effort sir, but I have been banned from that realm for using bonus feat: Whirlwind to take WM early on a monk build. Despite still taking all of the feats later on."


 


I'm not sure I'd agree with Shadooow that it's an absolutely legitimate use of the items but unless you as the admin have said not to abuse that trick then banning seems a bit extreme -- it's not hacking 2da files or something and it's considered perfectly fine on some worlds.




We explicitly state cheating or exploiting is not tollerated. Right on login you get that message. When I confronted Skipp as to his build he had been using for months (over a year?) he downplayed it, and feighned ignorance. You all are butting your heads in here about something you know nothing about and making me look like a big bad aDMin for enforcing rules and trying to ensure all of our players are playing fairly. That is seriously lame.


 


BTW MM, I did not ban Skipp over this. In fact I offered him a free re-roll of his toon, with no penalty after he reluctantly told me how he did this, and revealed where the item came from. He subsequently went on a typical lashing out on our forums and trying to distract what he had done by going off about "flaws" he perceived in the mod. He even went on here to publically call out a "flaw" (overflowing saves on a hypothetical build no one plays at a hypothetical level 1000+ [4k accounts and only 2 people have reached 1000+, and 2 others are close {Skipp is one of them} and none of them play this BG/Pally build].) Essentially publically slandering us in my book. Yes, it's true I just yesterday temporarially banned him for a week due to his attitude on our forums and here, but in fact this particular issue (the illegitimate build) was not the explicit reason for the temporary ban.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2014, 02:47:25 am »


               

I should not have to justify to you all my actions of a PW I "own" and pay for hosting due to one disgrunteled passive agressive manipulative player.


 


But thanks for the support guys. Keep on with your awesome work improving our community.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2014, 03:18:26 am »


               


He even went on here to publically call out a "flaw" (overflowing saves on a hypothetical build no one plays at a hypothetical level 1000+ [4k accounts and only 2 people have reached 1000+, and 2 others are close {Skipp is one of them} and none of them play this BG/Pally build].) Essentially publically slandering us in my book




 




Has anyone found a method to stop these two feats from stacking together? Our realm rewards +2 to an ability score every 25 levels(bonus lvls after 40 from xp), and CHA based characters can overflow their saves really easily with these feats. I've warned the players because im confident that there isnt a workaround, but figured I would ask here.



 


 


Actually the overflowing saves could be produced at half my level, I even provided the math stating so. That could be attained easily by any player that wanted to play a dark paladin using your alternate CHA based AB. Really not sure how you can percieve my act of kindness as hostility, and trying to downplay your realm, which i clearly never even mentioned in the first place?


 


You are quite welcome btw for honoring your lack of time, and facilitating a fix for this before it happened '<img'>


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2014, 03:57:24 am »


               

Really? Why has that not been an issue for anyone then? There are many players more than half "your level", and no one has experienced this.


 


You never mentioned Aventia except for the fact that you advertise Av (with OP posts such as this with videos) and then post things like you did to dis it. You think people can't put 2 and 2 together? Clearly you never mentioned Av3, but it is clear to me you are so passive aggressive,  you use things like this to try to ...


 


Umm... I guess I owe you a thank you? I would personally rearrange and substitute a few of those letters if I could on here.