Considering that in the past I have always attempted to hold the PRC in a good light, despite the repeated bashings it got (and the OP reputation because of such), and you pretty much are aware of that, I would say if you really thought that I would just let it go, that that was pretty naive.
The PRC was pounded on by much of the Community - much of it unfairly. That the PRC brought many new and interesting tools and utilities to the Community was a moot point - bash that OP piece of crud!
A few (like myself) decided to defend it - and I hope that at least a few peeps out there got to enjoy using it because of this.
Hint: the Eldritch Knight does not have that and for good reason. For a level 20 build, an Eldritch Knight cannot get above 17 BAB (with something like 4 fighter/6 wizard/10 EK and those 3 BAB are lost early on) and doing so results in a level 16 caster. At the other extreme they cannot get above level 19 caster and have 15 BAB. They also have to deal with spell failure and get d6 HP.
Yes, but I can offset this by taking feats (Practiced Spellcaster, for example). For the loss of BAB, I can use spells to offset it (Tenser's Transformation, the PnP version, for example).
It is pretty much what you were talking about - minus the D10 hps (which the TT pretty much takes care of as well).
"Full" put in quotes is to put it in context - meaning, when you say
a whole bunch
- that it is a subjective meaning, but one which leads one to believe that most of something is whatever is being considered Full or A WHOLE BUNCH. I hope that clears that up.
BTW - when I want to actually quote someone, I use the Quote tags.
Now, wouldn't it have been much easier for you to just have ignored the PRC commenting altogether? You know, along the lines of "nothing nice to say, don't say anything"? Was it really necessary for you to comment on it?
To the Classes thing : you are beating a dead horse, and you know it. If one has gone through the trouble of designing 50 Classes, but only 3 are viable, then that is bad design, both structurally and environmentally.
Because I can make ANY Class viable with the right environment. So can you. So can just about anyone that does design.
As for the weapon thing, again you dodge, with some exception voiding, to prove your point. Do you even realize how that looks and reads? I have rarely (meaning never) been in an environment where there was not exceptions of some sort - either the creatures are different, or the tasks, etc. I haven't ever played in an environment where everything was exactly the same.
Thus, dependingly, 1,2, or 3 may or may not be more or less useful, dependingly. Although I would like to have all 3. Why are you trying to limit me to just one? *shrugs* I will just use all 3.
As for the 30% thing - ok, so it can be any weapon. Got it. But my character only uses spells. I think I will take door number 4, which gives me other benefits than combat ones. What I am saying here is that one can make a pretty powerful thing, but it doesn't mean it is always going to be the best choice.
As for the OP stuff - it is like a record with a scratch in it. You do know what über is, I know you do. It used to be a playstyle, with über 2das. Basically mostly PvP, but some sorts did use them on PWs and in Mods.
And I say, so what? If that is what they want, let them play. As long as they are not ruining the fun of others, it adds to the game. Would it totally ruin the fun of your Mod? Maybe for you - but for that person who wants to, why is that a bad thing?
I am still really puzzled at your narrow view of what is fun in the game. Why do you wish to limit what might be fun for others, based on some notion that you have?
You see, after running PWs for years, I basically came to realize that people have fun in different ways, often in ways that I don't. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't have fun - on the contrary, it means that I don't have to play that way.
You go about it in a different fashion. You don't think something would be fun (based on...what? Your opinion), so it is not ok for others to have fun doing that something?
I consider that somewhat strange.
Now, I probably wouldn't be playing Mr. Ãœber Build, because I like playing things according to what is fun for me, and I don't think that would be much fun (I might try it to find out, however). BUT! there are probably others out there that might have fun playing it.
So, increased fun, bigger crowd, better for all of us.
Less fun, smaller crowd, worse for all of us.
Hmmm...I choose the first choice.
It is kinda strange, because you went out of your way to bring your ideas to fruition, your Mod. A Mod is a lot of work (I know), and alot gets poured into it. Such a thing adds to the game, and I not only recognize it, I applaud such.
I might not actually like the content, but someone might - and if they are having fun, then that makes the game all that much better, IMHO.
Aaaand then you pull out the "play the X the way the Designer meant it to be played, at least the first time" card.
How many times have I heard that tired, old line?
Bleh.
Absolutely not!
That is not fun for me. I like my characters to be fully characterized, with the look that I like. Which, no Designer to date has implemented (with the possible exception of AD - nice stuff, AD!!!). Of course, I played on AD's world, so...that is beyond the point.
I am absolutely 100% positive that you have not put such in your Mod. So, I will change it before ever having played it. It will certainly look and feel differently than you had in mind, but that is because I like it that way. And I will play it with the OHS, because I like to RP with my party members. I am an old school party pooper.
I enjoy playing with a party, and not really solo. Of course, in NWN online, you get the ultimate in party type play, but that is not what I am talking about here. Ideally, NWN would give you ala BG full control (much like NWN2) of all party members, but that is unfortunately not possible. The OHS comes closest to emulating that.
I don't know if you played NWN2, but I was one of the minority who actually really liked SoZ (Storm of Zehir). It was basically a nice sandbox adventure, with a party.
And I really liked that!
I didn't get railroaded too much (hate that), got to basically go where I wanted to (love that!), and get waxed when the encounter was too tough (which is cool). All that with a party of my choosing (absolutely love that).
Yeah, I played that thing to death. It was about the only thing I liked about NWN2, come to think of it.
But enough, I diverge.
About the quote - that normally pertains to working with stone, I believe. Which in itself is ironic. Set in stone...yeah. Well, you have your perceptions of how fun is to be had, and I have mine. Just glad we are not able to force them on anyone. Not that I would want to.