Note To Bioware

[Legacy__Guile]

               I believe your new rule, no messages to anyone NOT on your friends list is just plain absurd & will disrupt "Social Networking" greatly...

I'm sure I could go on about why with great justification, but I know that this will only fall on deaf ears.

It only leads me to believe that Bioware wants to dump it's customers..
               
               

               

                     Modifié par _Guile, 11 juin 2013 - 11:27 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <scheming...>

Nah, it's all a nefarious plan by my subconscious to get 1000+ imaginary friends

Since I use the PMs here extensively for moderation and helping NwN1 & 2 users, I guess I just have to put out the call "Friend me!" like the attention monger I am :-)

*EVERYBODY* friend me so I can still do my job :-P

<...even in his sleep>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Tarot Redhand]

               @_Guile you may want to check out this 10 page thread on the subject.

TR 
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Beerfish]

               I agree, I can see the intent but it's not a great decision.  I don't want a huge huge friend list and I certainly do not want to have to ask to be a friend just for one pm to another person.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_painofdungeoneternal]

               I was thinking about leaving this forum entirely, I get a lot of pm's from random people asking for things, and i have never until today accepted a friend request. I do not want to be picking and choosing who my friends are ( everyone is my friend here ), likewise I do not want to spend all my time accepting and rejecting people.

A lot of good things happen behind the scenes in PM's. This is just going to have to force me to find another place to discuss this game.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <sometimes rash...>

@ Beerfish: the biggest loss is to the utility of my friends feed, which gives me a friend-focused list of where my chosen demographic is focused at the moment :-( Hate losing that, and I *dont* want a thousand friends, anyway. But I also want to be available to this community privately, and most of that traffic is through PMs here. There are many (better!) ways to contact me, such as my contact link on the new vault, but the people I want to help don't know or want them.
*shrug*
Perhaps BSN will change their minds. Perhaps I'll give up in overload and start gibbering. We'll see :-)

@ Pain: I know how you feel about friends and am quite ok with our current communications :-) Though it was great working with you in chat the other day I do hope you don't abandon these forums.

<...always impetuous>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_KlatchainCoffee]

               

_Guile wrote...

I believe your new rule, no messages to anyone NOT on your friends list is just plain absurd & will disrupt "Social Networking" greatly...

YES. You can tell this change was not thought-thoguht AT ALL from the 'user perspective' and it's main result is likely to be in shifting large numbers of people to different platforms for communication. I know this is true in my case.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               the only advantage is that you cannot insult or spam anyone. You wouldnt insult someone on your friendlist so ? well i dont really care. People who thinks about these things are way lower my age and have a different mindset anyway...
i mean the people who works in the social communication media area in reallife;)
               
               

               

                     Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 11 juin 2013 - 04:33 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_painofdungeoneternal]

               Never had much issue with that.

Most of the spam goes in the forums, and you can block if you need to. ( and i've only ever done one block and been on this site since it replaced the bioboards where i never blocked anyone )

( and the report link i am assuming is now manned, i generally had to hunt down a username for a moderator, or use their personal email when i noticed an issue )
               
               

               

                     Modifié par painofdungeoneternal, 11 juin 2013 - 05:49 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_MagicalMaster]

               Yeah, I don't see this as a good change - it's not like WoW or another MMO where everyone has a common server (and each server is highly populated) where they log on and can talk about stuff there.  Now it's friends list to PM, email, or the highway.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_MrZork]

               Poor change, IMO. That is not to say there isn't some benefit to it for someone, but it's of near-zero value to me and, I suspect, most of the people on the BSN forums I frequent. Of course, I get maybe 2 spam PMs per year. Perhaps some people are getting dozens every day and this change helps them out. Sadly, the simple expedient of making this change an option ("Accept PMs only from friends") would have dealt with the PM spam issue for those to whom it was a significant problem, without gutting the utility of PMs for the rest of us.

I suspect that the incentives will encourage one or more of a couple responses to this change. 1) Friending people automatically will become the norm, in which case the friend designation is meaningless and it will lose any value in preventing PM spam. 2) People will hold to their already-established notions of what constitutes an online friend and will generally not accept friend requests from people with whom they are not already familiar from the forums.  The same people will be similarly disinclined to send friend requests to those they don't "know" from the forums.

FWIW, I just checked my PMs. Probably 2/3 of them I would never have sent or received under the new policy. That includes people I later had many PM correspondences with, but would not have if not for the initial PM. Of those now never-would-have-been-sent PMs, almost none would have been worth adding to a thread to discuss in the forums.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy__Guile]

               0 Response leads me to believe that us gamers here are NOT Bioware's customers...

I'll remember that on all future Bioware Game Releases....
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_MrZork]

               I don't think the change is for the best. However, to be fair, Bioware has responded in the main thread that Tarot helpfully linked above. Here, for example.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_painofdungeoneternal]

               Fair answer, can't ask for more

( and this topic  here is off topic as it should be in that thread where bioware is reading this )
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Tarot Redhand]

               It took me three tries before I actually posted in the thread I gave the link to, though ().

TR