NWN-like Kickstarter ! (Sui Generis)

[Legacy_henesua]

               Honestly, Sui Genesis is not what you claim. The Unity engine is 10 times closer to NWN than what you claim this project is, but its a basic professional game dev tool.

Sui Genesis is a single player CRPG. It looks cool. But its just a single player CRPG. Yeah, if I had the skills that these guys did I'd make a CRPG with the same depth that they are. I might.  But thats where the conection ends. They had a vision and want to realize it. We've all got visions that we want to realize.

Nothing else is similar.

Why did you have to push this as an NWN like project?  It isn't. It is a cool project. But thats it. It would have probably been fine for you to have talked about it as a cool project. And we'd all be more positive in response to you and the project. But you are being dishonest. Plain and simple. Dishonest. So this is what you get in return because it irritates us.

I don't mean you or the team behind this project any ill will, but I do not like it when others misrepresent a project in order to promote interest in it.

[Editted to clarify and clean up some screwy grammar]
               
               

               

                     Modifié par henesua, 09 novembre 2012 - 11:18 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Nighthirster]

               There is absolutely nothing dishonest about envisioning the potential of a game engine - which is exactly what I've done, no more and no less. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion, but make sure your swallow your accusations while you're at it.

Its clearly stated on their kickstarter that Multiplayer is definitely one of their objectives - with LAN at the very least on release and the likely inclusion of online and massively multiplayer elements post-launch. This is fact, and is available for anybody to see in their FAQ section.

Personally, I have faith that their toolset will be made available to the public - there already exists standalone version offered in the rewards section. In my view, thats only a matter of time. Beyond that, I don't know about you, but I personally don't know of any Multiplayer CRPGs with modding support and anticipate massively multiplayer elements - this makes the comparison more than fair.

Is Sui Generis a fully-featured NWN-like? Absolutely not, its scarcely more than a game engine at this point. Can it become one? No doubt in my mind - the technology is there, the market is there, and perhaps most importantly, the development team has expressed their intent to pursue those features. It may never see the light of day, but such is the risk inherent to any game development process. There is absolutely nothing dishonest about that.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_henesua]

               You aren't on secure ground as that has not been your stance since the beginning. Look at your title.

Sui Genesis is nothing like NWN. The core of NWN is user created content. Sui Genesis is not there, and extremely unlikely to get there.

If you were all about mobilizing us to persuade the Sui Genesis team to make their game like NWN, then state it at the beginning and take the lead and persuade us.

[Edit: again. I don't mean ill will, but you are clinging to a BS point here, and it is quite annoying. So a word of wisdom, think twice before posting a thread like this in the future. If you mean one thing but say another while promoting a project, you aren't likely going to receive a positive response.]
               
               

               

                     Modifié par henesua, 10 novembre 2012 - 12:45 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Nighthirster]

               No point in debating this further hensua - I posted an identical thread in the nwn2 forums which was met with overwhelmingly positive responses. I appreciate your concern, but quite honestly I don't need you to tell me what I meant or how to post on a forum - rather look to your own forum etiquette before making accusations while simultaneously claiming no ill will.

I do apologize to those who had to witness the devolution of this thread though - this was not its intention.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Nighthirster, 10 novembre 2012 - 07:13 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_NWN_baba yaga]

               good that the nwn2 guys are so nice to Sui Generis and we´re not just individuals with different oppinions...
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               Thanks for sharing the link, Nighthirster - I'll be keeping an eye on it and hope the project goes forward. Its always good to see what other folks are working on.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Mr. Versipellis]

               I can see a lot of potential here, although I do think they need to think about what players want from an indie RPG - the gradual demise of NWN has really left a gap in the market, and I think they'd do well to add the features people have mentioned.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lotion Soronarr]

               Only 4 days left.

I kinda feel sad, as it looks like it won't make it.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Mr. Versipellis]

               9 hours left, £10,000 to raise. Looks like it won't make it... what a shame :/
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

Mr. Versipellis wrote...

9 hours left, £10,000 to raise. Looks like it won't make it... what a shame :/

If you were watching you would have seen the amount grow rapidly within the last few days (more than half the amount was funded within 3-4 days of the closing) .  Right now its 8 hours and less than 5,000 pounds to raise.  It seems quite likely it will make it.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Mr. Versipellis]

               If it did make it with only a few hours to go, it'd be spectacular. It looks like the game engine is pretty much sorted already.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Squatting Monk]

               6 hours to go... and it's £505 over its goal. Yeah!
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               Funded with an excess of over 10,000 pounds (6.7% above goal).
               
               

               

                     Modifié par WhiZard, 30 novembre 2012 - 02:38 .