I Bid You All Adieu

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               That really sucks!  Add my thanks to the long list as well!

BTW - a dog is not a good defense.  One shotgun blast reduces any dog to a bloody heap.  The best thing you can do is to get a good alarm system, or a spy cam.

Especially the spy cam is very, very effective, cheap, and legal (as long as it is inside your house).
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <relaxing...>

I respectfully disagree on one point, WS ;-) A dog is not only a self-guided missile, but an alarm system and fun-loving brother-in-arms all rolled into one joyful, slobbering package (all my dogs tend to slobber :-P ).

You have a point about the shotgun, and the camera and ever-vigilant security systems. But if you're facing a shotgun, you've got a whole new level of problem. There are few deterrents against casual burglary better than a massive, alert head staring at you through a window while the owner is away or snoozing in his favorite easy chair.

And I just love dogs. Heh. And cats. Go figure.

Oddly, I've only befriended one bird <befriended? you over-state the matter, wizard>
Yeah, well. Birds are *flighty*. <ya think?>
Oh, hush. Just wish you could fetch my slippers <never gonna happen, old man>

(edit: Though I've sailed most of the seven seas, I have lived most of my life in Oakland, CA, so I am not speaking without experience. And shotguns *do* worry me)

<...for a long nap>
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Rolo Kipp, 16 avril 2012 - 01:48 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               Well, I don't have any stats on Dogs vs Cams, but in the Dogs vs Shotguns, the Shotguns always win...obviously, one using a Shotgun is not worried about noise - so the noisy dog is not a real problem.

Is Pstemarie in a country where firearms are difficult to obtain?  In a crowded, populated area?

 In that case, perhaps a dog would be appropriate - though a spy cam would be cheaper and most effective at apprehending the perp - which the dog is not going to be able to do, normally.  Perhaps both of them for optimal deterrence and evidence gathering?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <grinning...>

That's what I like when discussing security & protection... overkill ;-)

<...like a madman>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_HipMaestro]

               

WebShaman wrote...
Well, I don't have any stats on Dogs vs Cams, but in the Dogs vs Shotguns, the Shotguns always win...obviously, one using a Shotgun is not worried about noise - so the noisy dog is not a real problem.

A noisy dog makes a poor protector.  if they are trained properly, as we do here, the only sound the burglar will hear is the sound of his windpipe being crushed.  A gun should never enter the equation.  It's basic training for any animals used in the military, BTW. 

First thing is to remove 2 items.  First, any chain or collar that may cause enough noise to alert an intruder, and secondly, any of those ridiculous signs that annouce that the property is protected by guard dog.  Only signmakers benefit from those.

Cams have no personality.  I'd stick with the Rott and the drool. '>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Elhanan]

               I prefer a decent Ward or Glyph mself, but I am old school....



Sorry to hear that there are Griefers in RL environs that also imtend to ruin play. May the OP find the zeal for playing again, even if the Techie part is too painful to explore for now.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Elhanan, 20 avril 2012 - 04:21 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Leurnid]

               Nobody in for a casual robbery is going to bring a gun, and they won't bother with a house with a dog.

If they bring a gun, they are there for a totally different kind of business, and it's probably personal.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               

A noisy dog makes a poor protector.  if they are trained properly, as we do here, the only sound the burglar will hear is the sound of his windpipe being crushed.  A gun should never enter the equation.  It's basic training for any animals used in the military, BTW.

Except that such an animal is very, very expensive.  Such training is not cheap (I work in Security, and I know how much such animals cost, even for a Security company).  A spy-cam is much cheaper, and in the case of laws (depending on where one lives, countries differ in regards to laws), a spy-cam will prevent one from being liable for injuries/deaths here.

Nobody in for a casual robbery is going to bring a gun, and they won't bother with a house with a dog.

If they bring a gun, they are there for a totally different kind of business, and it's probably personal.

This is sadly inaccurate - but really depends on what country one generally lives in, I believe.  Many "casual criminals" tend to carry weapons, even for such things like "casual robbery" (whatever that is).  After all, one doesn't know if one is going to "surprise" the residents in their sleep, etc...
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Elhanan]

               Fellow Gamers; would it be OK if we were to move this exchange elsewhere? It may be just me, but this seems to be the wrong thread to continue this discussion.

And again Pstemarie; hate to see anyone coerced into leaving. Be well.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_jmlzemaggo]

               Well, dear Pstemarie, I've got even more bad news for you: you can't really leave NWN, not on your own will alone. Look at me, I tried, and obviously... I'm not too far, still...
I left against my will, just like you, and that's the worse part of the story. Now, from the little I learned from life, experience's got no use in the past, but could grow big in the future... sometimes.
I'm not worried for you, people with talent are blessed enough already.
Like Hip would say, only better.

'love you all. Really do. Even if I'm so ashamed to admit it I could kill myself before saying it.
So, don't count on it. Ever.

Je vous embrasse quand même...
Damn!
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               ^ Now THAT is more like it!

Actually, being able to start fresh may just get those creative juices flowing again.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Omega27]

               Sorry  to hear that '>. Perhaps there might be a future chance you'd come back. Bringing a whole new set of content for us to enjoy '>?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ffbj]

               Tears began to Fall...

               
               

               

                     Modifié par ffbj, 05 mai 2012 - 03:08 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_AndarianTD]

               

Pstemarie wrote...

Well, after suffering the most heinous deed imagineable - the theft of my computer, along with numerous other electronic equipment - I have decided to hang it up. Essentially nothing is left of the work I have done / planned to do except for what was uploaded to Q and the Vault.

I'm very sorry to hear this, Paul. That your loss is a disaster for the NWN community is a given. The depth of the personal loss, though, is what really makes this a tragedy. It's not just a theft of stuff, but of the part of your life that went into creating that content. I can't imagine how I'd feel if my ongoing mod and writing work were lost in this way. It's got me thinking of looking into an off-site backup option, just in case.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Urk]

               This is a tragic loss to our entire community. I for one want to thank you with all my heart for all you've contributed to this community.

Please consider visiting us from time to time. Not only will it be nice to see you, it will give us a chance to try to lure you back in with our sirens call.