neverwinterconnections.com is moving

[Legacy_Elhanan]

               ^ Thanks for the info!
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ehye_khandee]

               

Elhanan wrote...

Does NWC offer DM training? I have not utilized the site, but do know that Guides and tips were offered for starting players at one time, and wondered if newbie DM's could get their feet wet, too. Thanks, and best of luck!

At one time NWC did in fact offer DM training via a group of helpful members' Fleet Street DM was the name IIRC. That has LONG been quiet, and I've not heard anything at all from any of those members so I don't even know if they are still around.

We would like to renew that program and have plans to do so should that old group fail to manifest when NWC is fully operational again. Likely early summer months will see a rebuild of that offering including a return of the NWC files section (fully cleaned).  ATM we do offer DM training via our server. Details via this link:

aldohral.forumotion.com/t53-a-call-out-to-dms

Thank you for your on (on topic) post. '>


Be well. Game on.
GM_ODA
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ehye_khandee]

               

ShaDoOoW wrote...

Seconded painpofdungeoneternal. Yet I also must react to this rant.

It was you who mentioned in this topic the gamespy issue and existing solutions to fix it. Your response to Skywing is absolutely unfair and uncivil. Your attitude towards the initiative of peoples trying to help this game is also stunning. Do you have a better solution? How do you want to add the server listing functionality within game client without modifying game files? How do you think that it does help if everyone will make his own server list like you?

My mention of it in this thread followed on the heels of a one line appeal for artists, further, it was direct in that is reads "Soon to debut a gamespy replacement." Note, this was not any form of solicitation for outside tools to provide one. The backend is already done (and was done at the time I posted that quote). Ours provides a separate system. Redundant methods are good (provided they don't disrupt the way other systems function). In the thread whose topic is the 'gamespy issue' I read several camps forming. Since you asked "Do you have a better solution?" I advocate only a change to the local hosts file (simple text edit well documented on the WWW). The topic of this thread is NOT "How do you want to add the server listing functionality within game client without modifying game files?" The topic here is neverwinterconnections.com and what it NEEDs to return to full functionality. Presently, that thing that is needed by neverwinterconnections.com is custom art work.

Am I blunt, direct and to the point? You bet.

How do you think derailing this thread is within the rules of the forum?

I repeat: Presently, that thing that is needed by neverwinterconnections.com is custom art work. We are programers, not artists. In order to complete our system for botproofing the forums we need the custom art. Please help.

Be well. Game on.
GM_ODA
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ehye_khandee]

               

Urk wrote...

... I also see some important advantages to having separate decentralized server listings. I see no reason that these solutions would be mutually exclusive. Quite the contrary. I see them complimenting one another.

I completely agree. Flat out if every web based server list depended on the same software and data source ONE outtage or issue could derail the whole community. Having more than one means, even if something bad happens to one NWN server source or the other, the community can still find servers and play. I maintain that search engines are second nature to most people on the Web, and having a solution OUTSIDE nwn means that new installs of NWN, finding a blank list, may turn to the Web and search engines, and thus find a solution. One might be a download and install such as these fellows offer, but our choice was to simply extend the NWC offering to include a page of servers, player counts and direct connect link. The community is free to choose their own solution.

That said, it is still NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD.

Urk wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

Does NWC offer DM training? I have not utilized the site, but do know that Guides and tips were offered for starting players at one time, and wondered if newbie DM's could get their feet wet, too. Thanks, and best of luck!

NWC used to have a DM training program, but they stopped doing it years ago. Long before I even got involved with the site. 

Carlo_One's DM101 mods are a great intro to DMing. I highly recommend starting there.

DM 101 Self Study Module for NWN 
http://nwvault.ign.c...500450000.shtml 
DM 101 Self Study Module for NWN2 
http://nwvault.ign.c...id=14972&id=296 

Another great way to get some hands on training is to offer to assist an active DM. 

Once NWC is back up to full functionality I may be in a position to help Oda reinstitute the DM certification, but Carlo 1's mod will still be the central teaching tool. 

URK - we would very much welcome your taking up that task as, especially now that NWN is available for download/install from places like gog.com (where it is the number one selling game)... NWN will be needing more DMs. Bless you brother, please do follow up on this later (once Phase Two is out) and we'll provide you with the moderator access you will need to accomplish the goal.

Be well. Game on.
GM_ODA
               
               

               

                     Modifié par ehye_khandee, 22 février 2013 - 02:46 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_ehye_khandee]

               Please see our new post for further discussion of the art needs of neverwinterconnections.com in this forum and board at:

aldohral.forumotion.com/t1450-neverwinterconnectionscom-art-help-needed#6394

If you join in on that thread, please stay on topic lest we summon the board


NEVERWINTERCONNECTIONS.COM is awaiting only art for the 'robo-foil' system. PLEASE HELP.

Be well. Game on.
GM_ODA

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                     Modifié par ehye_khandee, 05 mai 2013 - 11:56 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_OldTimeRadio]

               

Hey, ehye_khandee!  Since it's been three years and the site is still under construction, is there any chance you'd consider having neverwinterconnections.com redirect to http://neverwintervault.org/calendar for the time being?  Hat-tip to BelowTheBelt for pointing this out in the DM forum.

 

If you want to try it out, yourself, you can make a new DM Event by going to Contribute -> DM Event from the Calendar page:

 

 

Thanks!

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Thayan]

               

And....nothing. The sound of crickets in response to a very good suggestion. Yet the leader of this project has found the time to puff up his chest and spew his typical aggressive rhetoric in another thread right next to this one on several occasions since this post. Not a surprise. We really should expect nothing less since a project being 'in Beta' for 9-ish years, bugged to hell, yet the team claiming it is an awesomely amazing piece of work is totally acceptable for those who decided to take over Neverwinter Connections. While we're only at the 3 year mark for this site, it has all the hallmark traits their 'project leader' has become infamous for. Including the pages upon pages of hostile rhetoric in this topic from this arrogant and belligerent individual.

 

But hey - the good news is that security on what was one a pillar of the community is obviously sooooo secure. Does the community really need the site to function, or have useful up-to-date content, as long as it's secure? Otherwise hackers might have put it out of its misery years ago.

 

...or they might have actually bothered to hack into it and redirect it to the vault calendar.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_henesua]

               

Control of the URL and IP address should be given over to the community.

               
               

               
            

[Baaleos]

               

NeverwinterConnections.com is just a URL.

Yes - the community has had a long history with its use, but given that there is absolutely no value in its current state (the site itself) - I would move to start a new project.

Would anyone be open to starting a new match making site with me?

 

I would be keen to develop one in .Net - its what I'm best at, I wouldn't mind having a team of people to work with : 

I am happy to front the cash for hosting and purchase of a new domain - and the team will have full development access to the site.

This would be a good opportunity for anyone interested to learn .Net web development.

(I can be a good teacher when I want to be '>  )

 

Alternatively - if the community opts for a PHP or Java site, I can also provide hosting for a Linux machines - which are cheaper and easier to deploy to.

(Recently I did a CI for a client system that uses Rake and Drush to deploy to drupal sites etc - sets maintenance mode, deploys, clear cache, ends maintenance mode etc)

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_henesua]

               

I think its a great idea to move forward, Baaleos. But I think we should either get the domain from Ehye or instead expand upon the calendar at the vault to be feature rich.

 

I am on board with either of those. If you want to go with .NET I will applaud but I don't have any interest in building my .NET skills.

 

Maybe we can do both. I probably should exercise my PHP at the vault. If someone does create a match making site it would be cool to have an API at the vault which the new site or any site can interact with and cross post to the vault's calendar.

               
               

               
            

[Baaleos]

               

I think it would be good to make whatever solution - somehow able to integrate with the nwnscry / serverlist.

Eg: Allow a database of servers to be compiled, which could then be used to make a 'wizard' on the match making site - which allows people to organize partys easier.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_kamal_]

               

I think its a great idea to move forward, Baaleos. But I think we should either get the domain from Ehye or instead expand upon the calendar at the vault to be feature rich.

 

I am on board with either of those. If you want to go with .NET I will applaud but I don't have any interest in building my .NET skills.

 

Maybe we can do both. I probably should exercise my PHP at the vault. If someone does create a match making site it would be cool to have an API at the vault which the new site or any site can interact with and cross post to the vault's calendar.

My preference would be an expansion of the Vault's calendar, to make the Vault a one stop shop.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Fester Pot]

               

The calendar does work - it is very basic mind you - but integrating it to allow for front page visibility in terms of scheduled events would be helpful. So the front page would display PW events scheduled for said day, as a ticker or TAB display.


I do agree, that anything moving forward, should be retained in one place, and Neverwinter Vault has already proven to be a reliable location, and a trusted one with Rolo at the helm. It's also community driven, with the best interests of NWN and NWN2 in mind.


Just having said discussion is already better than the current alternative.

 

It's best to just start with a brand new ball, then attempt to pick up the pieces of a dropped one.

 

FP!

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_kalbaern]

               

The calendar does work - it is very basic mind you - but integrating it to allow for front page visibility in terms of scheduled events would be helpful. So the front page would display PW events scheduled for said day, as a ticker or TAB display.


I do agree, that anything moving forward, should be retained in one place, and Neverwinter Vault has already proven to be a reliable location, and a trusted one with Rolo at the helm. It's also community driven, with the best interests of NWN and NWN2 in mind.


Just having said discussion is already better than the current alternative.

 

It's best to just start with a brand new ball, then attempt to pick up the pieces of a dropped one.

 

FP!

Couldn't agree more. The new vault is the best place to host and maintain these types of applications. There's a ton of talented folk over there and if one person can't handle it, there's often others that can pitch in and help out.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_henesua]

               

i definitely think that putting this up at the vault is a good idea, but I'm not going to rain on Baaleos' parade. He does interesting stuff. So if he wants to put together a match making site. Good. However my preference is for that site to have the right URL. We should get it from Ehye. If he took the URL merely to kill the project (which was the outcome regardless of intentions), then we'll have some trouble with that, but if he had good intentions he should be fine with transferring the URL over to us. In short he has no valid reason to hold on to it and plenty of reasons to relinquish it.

 

My thought is to set up the vault's calendar to work as a game calendar in its own right, but also to send and receive event data with other NWN scheduling apps. So say Baaleos sets up a website. I think it would be cool if all of its events were cross posted to the vault, and could link back on the vault to his scheduler or anybody else's that works with our API.

 

Anyway... these are just thoughts. I need to make some changes in my personal life to take this on. Been thinking of making room in my schedule for projects again, and somewhere between two and four weeks from now I should be able to take a look at this and do something.