Paizo Licenses Pathfinder MMO Rights

[Legacy_ShadowM]

               I know a lot of people are interested in a Pathfinder version of NWN, well this is not it but it still might interest some people.

Goblinworks to Produce Next-Generation Fantasy Sandbox MMO


Paizo Publishing, LLC has licensed
the MMORPG electronic gaming rights to its smash-hit Pathfinder
Roleplaying Game intellectual property to Goblinworks, a Redmond, Washington
game developer and publisher that will create Pathfinder Online, a
next-generation fantasy sandbox massively multiplayer online game.
Founded by Paizo co-owner Lisa Stevens (Pathfinder RPG, Vampire: The
Masquerade, Magic: The Gathering), game industry veteran Ryan S. Dancey
(Dungeons & Dragons Third Edition, EVE Online), and experienced MMO
developer Mark Kalmes (Microsoft, Cryptic Studios, CCP), Goblinworks is
an independent company that will work with Paizo Publishing to bring the
award-winning world and adventures of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game
to the online gaming market. The process has only just begun, and there
is plenty of opportunity for gamers to get in on the ground floor of
this exciting new project. Paizo and Goblinworks are committed to
solicitin
g player feedback about the Pathfinder Online project, and more
information can be found at goblinworks.com.

Pathfinder Online will cast players as heroes in a unique online
fantasy world filled with sword & sorcery adventures and kingdoms
inhabited and controlled by thousands of competing players. Players can
explore, develop, adventure, and dominate by playing fighters, rogues,
clerics, or any of Pathfinder's many character classes, or they can go
beyond the standard options to create nearly any type of character
imaginable. Find lairs, ruins, and caverns filled with monstrous
creatures and incredible treasure. Build glittering cities of castles
and bustling markets. Take to the battlefield with vast armies to seize
and hold territory. Players change the world and create new stories as
they compete for resources, land, and military might. The possibilities
are endless.

"I've been hoping for a chance to work with Lisa and the Paizo team
on a Pathfinder project for years, and now that we're joining forces to
produce Pathfinder Online, I couldn't be happier or more excited," said
Goblinworks CEO Ryan S. Dancey. "My goal is to bring the high-quality
experience Paizo has delivered for Pathfinder to the MMO platform, and
to give players another fantastic way to experience the world of
Golarion."

About Paizo Publishing

Paizo Publishing®, LLC is a leading
publisher of fantasy roleplaying games, accessories, board games, and
novels. Paizo's Pathfinder® Roleplaying Game, the result of the largest
open playtest in the history of tabletop gaming, is currently the
best-selling tabletop roleplaying game in hobby stores. Pathfinder
Adventure Path is the most popular and best-selling monthly product in
the tabletop RPG industry. Paizo.com is the leading online hobby retail
store, offering tens of thousands of products from a variety of
publishers to customers all over the world. In the nine years since its
founding, Paizo Publishing has received more than 50 major awards and
has grown to become one of the most influential companies in the hobby
games industry.

Paizo Publishing, LLC, the Paizo golem logo
and Pathfinder are registered trademarks of Paizo Publishing, LLC, and
Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Modules,
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, and Pathfinder Society are trademarks of
Paizo Publishing, LLC.

About Goblinworks

Goblinworks
is the developer and publisher of Pathfinder Online, a next-generation
fantasy sandbox MMO. The company is located in the Seattle suburb of Redmond.
It was founded in 2011 by a dedicated group of creative professionals
with backgrounds in tabletop hobby gaming and online videogame
development. Goblinworks is dedicated to creating a fun, immersive
online gaming experience for the fantasy roleplaying enthusiast. Its
goal is to deliver the best sword & sorcery massively multiplayer
game on the market by starting with a carefully designed core of
features and iterating on the content continuously after launch, with
the input and feedback of the player community.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

ShadowM wrote...

I know a lot of people are interested in a Pathfinder version of NWN, well this is not it but it still might interest some people.

The entire post looks like an advertisement for a competitor that has not made any agreements concerning NWN with Hasbro, EA, or Atari, or any of their subsidiaries; and works strictly through OGL for the advertised product.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               Whizard, relax. It is not another NWN.

Hopefully they will look this way when making their game though....which is something all the other MMO developers have failed to do.

Any news of a smaller developer that makes an MMO that has a microscopic chance to be more niched than the normal MMO games is good news in my book and I'll follow it to see what happends...

I am not a pathfinder fan nor foe. I don't get it really....it seems like D&D 3,5. Maybe a bit more in depth on some things....

In this MMO they are talking about removing levels. This feels like a breach of fundamental D&D rules and also pathfinder itself. Also it in that case wanders even further from a presumtive NWN similarity.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 23 novembre 2011 - 08:31 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

SuperFly_2000 wrote...
Any news of a smaller developer that makes an MMO that has a microscopic chance to be more niched than the normal MMO games is good news in my book and I'll follow it to see what happends...

It is nice to note achievements, especially when comparing some to others in an NWN thread, but a full advertisement seems better placed in the off-topic forums.  OGL doesn't reproduce NWN, and the Aurora Toolset is not being used.  So I don't get the NWN relationship.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               You are right....

however...I do think that this could be of interest to NWN players as many other things.

Personally I don't think all theese things should be shoved down the off-topic where not nearly as many NWN players read or comment them.

Instead you get comments from people who really (to be blunt) have no idea what we are talking about.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_painofdungeoneternal]

               Pathfinder are where all the ex-writers for dragon magazine fled to when hasbro took over wizards and went in the direction of 4.0. It also is where those who used the generous OGL terms went to when that got much more restricted with the release of 4.0. When I read pathfinder rules i see an awful lot of rule changes i personally have added, or played with during my long history with D&D, and my feeling is its what 4.0 should have been. It is an evolutionary upgrade to the 3.5 rules which addresses many balance issues, much like 3.5 is an upgrade to 4.0.

In my experience its a very good rulebook to review when dealing with balance issues on a PW even.

My feeling is that 4.0 is trying to expand the game and really focused on target marketing to attract new customers, and quite a few changes do make sense to do that and i understand why they are starting over and these are very good reasons. Pathfinder in contrast is created by some outstanding gamers who have been producing content for D&D for years and is brimming with good ideas, much better balance, and is more fixing what is wrong in 3.5 instead of starting over.

At the end of the day it creates competition and a choice for us consumers and forces both companies to keep improving things instead of resting on their laurels. Hopefully the new neverwinter online mmo, and this new one both copy what is good in each other. I actually have always hoped that EA and bioware would sign a deal for the pathfinder license and use what they have done with dragon age to make a new game in the spirit of neverwinter 1, i feel like the D&D license has not been used to it's full potential.

Now i understand many do like 4.0 rules and don't feel like i do, not really trying to make it a thread about which isd better, I do borrow ideas from both pathfinder and 4.0, but I happen to have a lot more respect for the working stiffs who wrote all those dragon magazine articles over the years than what happened after Hasbro bought wizards just to get a card game.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par painofdungeoneternal, 23 novembre 2011 - 09:17 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_HipMaestro]

               I've already begun praying in earnest that Pathfinder never touches NWN in any way, shape or fashion.  I realize it has gained much popularity among D&D enthusiasts looking for another option but I hate it.  There's no point in expanding on that opinion as I need not reinforce a personal taste, one that won't change unless Pathfinder does, which is equally unlikely.  

Now, back to our regularly-scheduled program... 
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

painofdungeoneternal wrote...
Pathfinder are where all the ex-writers for dragon magazine fled to when hasbro took over wizards and went in the direction of 4.0.

I understand, and if this thread was about the history of DnD that would be a different matter.  But the thread seems only to focus on the joint effort product, which has nothing to do with NWN.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_-Semper-]

               yeah, and on top it's a mmo which likely's got action combat, grinding, no toolset and dumbed down rpg elements (if at all!). it's by all means no real crpg with turn based or at least phased fighting system, so who the **** cares?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Frith5]

               I care.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ShadowM]

               I see the nwn general section of NWN as more then just straight discussion of NWN 1, but more of a general D&D thread and how it interacts and affects NWN1 core and mods to it. We had discussions of other games from NWN2 to other games that have NWN in there name, but are not NWN1. I seen discussion about different D&D editions, I guess though should of been moved to off topic because they were not talking about 3.0 D&D nwn1 only. I see this as another continuation of this as people talk about good and bads of other games, media that related to D&D and NWN1. There is a group in CC section who are discussing mods to NWN1 with pathfinder as there goal. There are thoughts of how this may not pane out and maybe pazio will go back and make a similar game as NWN with pathfinder base. Like super said  I do think that this could be of interest to NWN players as many other things. Personally I don't think all these things should be shoved down the off-topic where not nearly as many NWN players / DM / builders / content creators read or comment them. I did not mean this as advertisement but as just as info about what going on in the D&D world. If the op wants to move it to off topic that fine with me. I was wondering what was the best place for it.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lord Sullivan]

               You lost me at mmo.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WhiZard]

               

ShadowM wrote...
I see this as another continuation of this as people talk about good and bads of other games, media that related to D&D and NWN1. There is a group in CC section who are discussing mods to NWN1 with pathfinder as there goal.

Then discuss the goods and bads in a comparison, or take this to CC to discuss pathfinder goals for NWN CC there.  Just posting an advertisement with no NWN relation is simply bad form.

If the op wants to move it to off topic that fine with me. I was wondering what was the best place for it.

You are the OP if you wan't to discuss more than the advertising end then go ahead.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ShadowM]

               Ok I will. Seeing as this show that another group other then Atari (unless Atari own either these) can make a D&D game, then this opens up possibility. It opens up where should D&D go from here, I have seen a discussions on 4th edition here and I heard a little on pathfinder here also. But If you were to give feedback to one of these game company on the next D&D game what would you change video game wise but also D&D core changes to make it the best experience it can be? What would you take from 4th edition and what would you take from pathfinder and what would you take from other sources ( other video games, PNP RPG etc...) I loved my NWN1 just for it flexibilty and ease of use(to manipulate it no super programs to work with) So that is near the top of my list. What did the other systems screw up too 4th edition, NWN2 , pathfinder, other games, PNP RPG?
Happy gaming '>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               

-Semper- wrote...
yeah, and on top it's a mmo which likely's got action combat, grinding, no toolset and dumbed down rpg elements (if at all!). it's by all means no real crpg with turn based or at least phased fighting system, so who the **** cares?

Unfortunately you have a very good chance of being right.

However....there is still a miniscule chance that this IS the one. That this is the game developer that will really sit down and think about what MMO really stands for, play some NWN on PW servers....and then make a kick ass game!

If any developer has a chance for this it has to be a fairly small one....like Goblinworks.

We don't know about the combat system....but if it is like you said then I'll surely drop this as well.

Also the "no levels" system makes my hesitant, thinking its a lame way to please all the "we dont want to grind"-kidz. Going up in level is fundamental in D&D and also in Pathfinder. Lets wait and see about this one though.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 24 novembre 2011 - 09:07 .