New NWN online game not a rumor anymore!

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               Its pretty much official now. Cryptic has it on their homepage and then there is the official website as well.

Official website for the game:
http://www.playneverwinter.com/

Some news sites entries:
http://www.gamespot....nt_news;title;1
http://www.gamespot....2&mode=previews
http://www.massively...erwinter-and-a/

Finally something multiplayer! Years too late but still...

Hats of for Cryptic who doesn't label their game as an MMO but instead Online Multiplayer Game (OMG!). Very interesting...even though I had been hoping for something in between an MMO and a CO-OP game but still...this can be it...!

Let's hope Cryptic can leave their mediocre mainstream titles behind them and astonish us with making something actually worthy of the name Neverwinter!

I got this information firstly from Skunkeen over at the Neverwinter Podcast forums. So thank him for digging it up!
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 24 août 2010 - 03:11 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Fester Pot]

               Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the NWN Community and making a non-official post with all the required links. I'll certainly keep an eye on this but I don't think it'll hold my interest since it does not support single player adventures, which has been the bread and butter of NWN since its release. If it does allow the multiplayer community to build and add to the existing world that will be created, then that'll make it more appealing.

Time will tell.

Not sure if this thread will get closed as another one was already started here.

Might be good to close that thread and leave this one open as it has more information with provided links than the original thread.

FP!
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Fester Pot, 24 août 2010 - 02:20 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Genisys]

               It appears there are going to be some Tools to create things... :X

Many people hate cryptic & many didn't like NWN 2, but that doesn't mean this NWN 3 online MMO is going to be a bad thing, because it clearly states it's going to use next generation graphics...

Maybe Direct X  11.0  I sure hope so!

Let's be honest here, if WOTC gave the ok on this, and it's obvious they did, then Atari / Cryptic (One Company) is going to TRY to make a better game than nwn2, surely....

How successful they will be, we will have to wait to find out, because nobody can guess just how good these coders are...

Thank you OP for posting this, this is truly something worth talking about...  '>
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Genisys, 24 août 2010 - 02:23 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Redunct]

               

Neverwinter Nights Reborn



Continue the critically acclaimed adventure! The #1 best-selling Neverwinter Nights series of PC RPGs returns with an epic Dungeons & Dragons storyline, next-generation graphics, a persistent world, and accessible content creation tools.

Sounds good, that's a good way to do it.



All in all it looks okay, except for this...

New D&D, Beloved D&D



Neverwinter is a true Dungeons & Dragons experience based on the acclaimed 4th Edition rules -- a first of its kind!

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Perramas]

               Its being made by Craptic and you cant host your own custume built servers. Craptic is in this to make money I wouldnt doubt there will be a monthly fee as you have to use their servers. I will pass on this game and continue to play NWN1.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               

Fester Pot wrote...

Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the NWN Community and making a non-official post with all the required links. I'll certainly keep an eye on this but I don't think it'll hold my interest since it does not support single player adventures, which has been the bread and butter of NWN since its release. If it does allow the multiplayer community to build and add to the existing world that will be created, then that'll make it more appealing.

Time will tell.

Not sure if this thread will get closed as another one was already started here.

Might be good to close that thread and leave this one open as it has more information with provided links than the original thread.

FP!

Yeah, I hope not this thread will be locked also. First it holds a lot more information and then also the heading is not totally misleading as this is not an MMO.

About single player it actually does support that. Only it wont be almost solely aimed at it this time. Personally I think its about got damn time. Bioware turned its back on multiplayer totally years ago.

Genisys wrote...
Many people hate cryptic & many didn't like NWN 2, but that doesn't mean this NWN 3 online MMO is going to be a bad thing, because it clearly states it's going to use next generation graphics...

How can you hate someone that is making something with NWN and Multiplayer with it :-o

For the record...this isn't called NWN3 and it not an MMO either. At least the developer is taking a clear stance against that now.

Genisys wrote...
Let's be honest here, if WOTC gave the ok on this, and it's obvious they did, then Atari / Cryptic (One Company) is going to TRY to make a better game than nwn2, surely....

It shouldn't be hard to make something better than that.

I was hoping for a LOT better actually. I like the way Cryptic are talking about the original game by Bioware and the respect they hold for that.

Genisys wrote...
Thank you OP for posting this, this is truly something worth talking about...  '>

No problem. I will however not take all the glory myself. I first learned this from Skunkeen on the Neverwinter podcast.[/quote]

Redunct wrote...

Neverwinter Nights Reborn

All in all it looks okay, except for this...

New D&D, Beloved D&D

Neverwinter is a true Dungeons & Dragons experience based on the acclaimed 4th Edition rules -- a first of its kind!

What is so bad about 4th ed? I mean....it can't be that bad right?

Also I am sure Cryptic are not slaves under the IP. They don't seem like the kind....

Also they are using Forgotten Realms lore and the book by R A Salvatore...which is probably going to be awesome....

Perramas wrote...

Its being made by Craptic and you cant host your own custume built servers. Craptic is in this to make money I wouldnt doubt there will be a monthly fee as you have to use their servers. I will pass on this game and continue to play NWN1.

This one made me laugh so hard....haha.

Frankly speaking though I am hoping for a miracle maybe...but I am hoping that Cryptic will see beyond that and just visualise something that is impossible and then make it...while the suits at the office are scratching their head...just like Bioware made NWN1.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 24 août 2010 - 02:51 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               Also I wont cry if there isn't a DM client. Although it was kind of cool the most important bit is the world itself. Basically what I am saying is...if the world is well constructed there is no use for a DM (flamewar start here!) ...even though I am naturally not against if such functionality was added.

I mostly see it a players vs environment thing anyway.

If it has some kind of battles between players that could be cool as well. If done in the right way. Fighting against something that is not using AI can be refreshing.

The DM will still be there...only he will be in the toolset...and perhaps not doing things on the fly...but rather build them in over time.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 24 août 2010 - 03:18 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Genisys]

               No use for a BAD DM, true, no use for a GOOD DM, false..



DMs can make the game more enjoyable, however I can see where your major disgruntle about DMs comes from, many players hate DM interaction due to the fact that quite a few DMs aren't player friendly.. (The Rule Thumpers especially)



I won't cry either... '>



               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Jenna WSI]

               Oh hells, it's 4e? Do not want.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               Genisys,
it is only partly because of that. Mostly is because most of the tasks that a DM does in-game can actually better be made in the toolset.

About random interaction with monsters or other players or NPC's I am sure that can be handled by some kind of DM client but not really the DM client that we are used to.

Maybe a DM client light or something....or just having other players play theese that you need to interact with...

Well..I don't know what I am talking about really...it is getting complicated here...

What I really want to say is...yes...DM is good....but he is never more important than the created world. I know on some PW's they actually tried just using something like a "barebone" module with just areas without any content....that will never work....so...the DM can never replace lots of content...but most DM tasks can be replaced by already placed content...cause that is actually one of the many tasks that the DM does...like placing out monsters for example...only he is doing it like 5 minutes before the players come there...so instead he would maybe have to do it days before...

Anyway...this is again gliding all together....so let us not get carried away. Anyway...the DM client is kind of a toolset in real time...which if I understand correctly will be avaliable in this game....so lets hope then....
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 24 août 2010 - 04:00 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Mordaedil]

               I'm really on the fence here. 4th edition isn't 3rd, or better yet, first edition, so it has to prove to me what fun it can provide.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               

Jenna WSI wrote...

Oh hells, it's 4e? Do not want.

Why?

Anyway...I don't think Cryptic will be slaves under the ruleset. Bioware weren't either....
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_GhostOfGod]

               

From and article in one of the links above...

Gamers can then join five-man squads composed of other online players to venture forth into the city's dungeons,

I really hope that this is not going to be like D&D Online where you get the feeling you are trapped in the city. Basically going outside is an instance dungeon rather than outside being a free roaming world. I think that is one of the things that really hurts that game. And the in city dungeons got very monotonous after about the 100th time doing them.

True to the D&D experience, Neverwinter will also let players craft
their own in-game storylines and quests by way of an in-game
content-generation system currently known as "Forge." Additional details
on Forge have not yet been revealed.

This sounds pretty cool.

I'm sure I'll probably buy the game and give it a whirl just because it's a D&D game. :happy:
               
               

               

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[Legacy_SuperFly_2000]

               

From their homepage...

"Play Together or Die Alone"

Mmm...nice '>
               
               

               

                     Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 24 août 2010 - 08:15 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Lord Sullivan]

               Frankly, I don't see how creating a Neverwinter nights in a different concept, any good. I don't know Cryptic, haven't play any of there creations, can't say anything about them.

On the online aspect of how they describe it to work, it sure sounds like how "Alien Swarm" works which isn't bad, but I'm not crazy about Alien Swarm either, so...

I really don't understand the commercially controlled pay to play "Online" folly as it seems to do more harm then good to the PC Gaming market. But hey, who am I to tell companies not to waste their money on high risk, mostly sure to fail game concept.

The Witcher sold more then 1.5 million copies to this day and doesn't even have multiplayer, a robust easy to use toolset like NWN and does not have the degree of customization that also NWN has.

They seem To be thinking like "Day dreamers" with unrealistic ideas of mountains of cash coming every month.

Ha well, good luck to them.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 24 août 2010 - 08:29 .