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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 12:23:13 pm »


               

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Well, aside from the MMO factor, I really, really, really, really, really dislike the new V4 rules in D&D.  Any ideas on if it'll be V4 or are we in the dark more or less?


No way WOTC would let anyone release a 3.x title
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2010, 02:45:27 pm »


               Has the lawsuit between Atari and Hasbro been settled? I can't see any D&D game being released until that is resolved.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2010, 04:03:11 pm »


               If they take NWN and turn it into a MMO, it means that all of what made NWN so great is gone (the COMMUNITY content and add ons and all the amazing stuff).  To top it off, if they want to pay to play, i feel it will be the death knell for the franchise.  

               
               

               
            

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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2010, 07:52:04 pm »


               

avado wrote...

If they take NWN and turn it into a MMO, it means that all of what made NWN so great is gone (the COMMUNITY content and add ons and all the amazing stuff).  To top it off, if they want to pay to play, i feel it will be the death knell for the franchise.  


1rst off - NWN 1 has YET to be beaten...
2ndly - NWN 1 is STILL very much alive...
3rdly - NWN 1 WILL NEVER DIE! '<img'>

So who cares what NWN 3 may or may not be, if it's better than NWN 1 (doubtful), then all of us would probably be willing to pay for it (IF it's all that), since the rumor is Cryptic is taking over (Which is now owned by Atari & we saw NWN2), then I think there is really nothing here to get excited about, really...
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2010, 08:09:19 pm »


               Apparently they won't plan NWN3 for us.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2010, 08:14:57 pm »


               

Luspr wrote...

Morugatu wrote...

Well, aside from the MMO factor, I really, really, really, really, really dislike the new V4 rules in D&D. Any ideas on if it'll be V4 or are we in the dark more or less?


No way WOTC would let anyone release a 3.x title


I agree with this. WotC will make sure that it is 4th edtion if it is released at all and with Cryptic Involved it will be the usual just get it out there and hope for a return on the release unless they take thier time.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2010, 09:33:21 pm »


               If it's even close to being as game-breakingly (and companion-wise) buggy as NWN2 was, then I'm not going to bother buying NWN3 should it come out. Otherwise, I might consider giving it a go.

Edit: I'd also prefer it if BioWare were to be involved in it, but something tells me that it isn't going to happen.
               
               

               


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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2010, 10:49:36 pm »


               

C Writer wrote...

If it's even close to being as game-breakingly (and companion-wise) buggy as NWN2 was, then I'm not going to bother buying NWN3 should it come out. Otherwise, I might consider giving it a go.

I assume you're referring to the NWN2 of 2006, because the NWN2 of 2010 is extremely stable as a gaming platform.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2010, 10:53:07 pm »


               

NWN DM wrote...

C Writer wrote...

If it's even close to being as game-breakingly (and companion-wise) buggy as NWN2 was, then I'm not going to bother buying NWN3 should it come out. Otherwise, I might consider giving it a go.

I assume you're referring to the NWN2 of 2006, because the NWN2 of 2010 is extremely stable as a gaming platform.


For a SP Mod but not for a PW but that is IMHO and not to be taken as gospel.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2010, 12:23:11 am »


               

Genisys wrote...
1rst off - NWN 1 has YET to be beaten...
2ndly - NWN 1 is STILL very much alive...
3rdly - NWN 1 WILL NEVER DIE! '<img'>

Well said.

While NWN1 may have it's own share of flaws and hardships due it being the most dated of the box packages, it is still the most enjoyable, most diversity (due to class combinations and level cap**, and simply put the easiest complete package for scripters and builders to use.

If it were just the OC's and expansions, we wouldn't even be here, but the sheer flexibility of the game has what have given it such staying power even to this day.

Like many here, I am leery of MMO's, though in some ways PW's are not all that much different then an MMO.
I also do not hold any love for Cryptic studios.
Wish Bioware was still running the D&D boat.


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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2010, 12:51:10 am »


               

Xovian wrote...

Like many here, I am leery of MMO's, though in some ways PW's are not all that much different then an MMO.

PWs are effectively MMOs you as a builder can create. I mean, for the vast majority of active community members I'd wager that's at least indirectly why they're here. But a commercially developed and non-moddable (after all, how could it be, and still be commercially viable?) MMO based on the franchise and storyline of the packaged NWN campaigns? And lets not forget that this franchise includes NWN2. Well...

Also, the discussion reminds me of a point made to me by a friend in the community not so long ago - that another part of the beauty of NWN is in the dungeon master client and the possibilities it allows. Fat chance of seeing anything like that in an MMO, sadly.

Of course I may be regurgitating thoughts already said. In that case: I agree! 
               
               

               


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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2010, 03:52:34 am »


               

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Meh... if I can't build and DM with it, and/or have to pay a monthly fee to play it, I have no interest in it.


Exactly.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2010, 07:40:50 am »


               MMO blow, and its a double barrel shot gun blow.



1 barrel: pay to play

2 barrel: not a true rpg but an online coffee house
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2010, 10:26:57 pm »


               Many good points made here regarding standard MMO stuff. I agree with most of it (although I have to admit I've never really played an MMO, so I speak from ignorance).
It is pretty likely to be just what people are saying, and that'll be that for me too. However . . .
it wouldn't have to be.
I can imagine a different kind of MMO, one which does include a DM-client. Why not? With instanced areas and mobs? The DM/Builder could also have access to both standard resources, to populate their areas for their group(s), along with the ability to use custom content for the same things. Core areas could be used at will by DM-led groups, so you could wander the rough streets and alleys of Dock Ward, Waterdeep, but when the DM decides a brawl is in order, an instanced area is loaded for the fight, with NPCs and all, but no PCs not in your DM's list. Other areas, designed and built by the DM/Builder, would be exclusively available to the DM and his/her group of players.
The official servers could run contests and such, discerning the best 'modules' (ie adventures) and content, and could even decide to add those quests to the stock game, making them available to other DMs. Maybe a deal on services could be made to entice the best DMs to do better and better. They could get free subscriptions to the DM client for their contributions, etc.
Now, this could be a pipe dream, sure. But isn't everything a dream, before it becomes a reality? This is an opportunity to leap up over the shoulders of the straining mob of MMO clones; to tower above like an iron fortress; to re-invent just exactly what an MMO is!
Whew, got a bit excited there, sorry. '<img'>
Of course, it'll most likely not be any of those things, but . . .
I will keep an eye on it, just in case.

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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2010, 10:52:26 pm »


               This will bomb.



One of the things that has kept NWN1 alive is that you can design content and stuff. MMO's don't let you do that.



Way to go with ruining it Atari.