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Legacy_Jenna WSI

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« on: July 30, 2010, 06:59:05 pm »


               As a player, do you have a problem with downloading haks in order to try a server? Would you rather just be able to login and give it a go... or does all that custom content appeal to you more? 

There's a few new tilesets (worms, wild woods) that I've been drooling over.. but I'm not sure how much work the average player really wants to put into testing a server. Thanks for the imput.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 07:36:56 pm »


               No problem at all. With connection speeds being what they are today, haks add so much more to the game and once you have them, you're good to go.

I'm building an SP module using Worm's Seasonal Forest. I just wish he'd hurry up and update his Cypress Swamp set. '<img'>

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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 07:53:30 pm »


               I agree. D/L a hak is not an issue so long as the links are up to date and the info available before you login (screenies, major system changes, magic level, RP level etc) is informative enough to let you know whether you would likely enjoy the server.

Personally, I would not join a server without improved head choice and armour/clothing haks and crafting because designing the image of my character to suit her RP is important to me.

Tilesets like Worms' ones tho? They ought to be compulsory *grin*

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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 08:06:06 pm »


               Gotta agree as well, in fact at this stage of NWNs life I admit, I only play and build with Haked MODs. I even use overrides when playing the OCs. As far as dl times, even if your on the worst dial-up there is, and out where I live that can be 16k, there are still free wifi places you can go and dl stuff in seconds. Buy a jump drive and have at it, most librarys offer free DSL and comps to use.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 08:07:01 pm »


               I don't know how the average player feels about it ... ME, I wouldn't mind at all. If the theme of the server is interesting and you put up lots of beautiful screenshots, the download would be no obstacle for me and the cool tilesets an additional motivation.

Then again, lots of beautiful servers I know that use haks - even Worms' own server - are pretty deserted. But yours already got a solid playerbase - so what do your regulars think about it? In any case, if you intend to use additional haks, I'd make sure you don't keep adding to them and you don't change the hakpak every month or so. Because it's one thing to download a hakpak once (a lot of players did it with CEP, too) but it's another to have to download updates on the regular. And make it very clear what haks are required and help your players find and install them. It might sound strange but to me it seems a certain percentage of players who complain about haks don't have issues with the download but with the installation - they obviously can't be bothered to learn how to use a simple file manager like the Windows Explorer...
':whistle:'

Hope that helps. And btw, I like your new avatar.  '<img'>
               
               

               


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Legacy_Jenna WSI

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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 08:23:22 pm »


               Heh. Thanks Oliver, I really hate not being able to use custom avatars. C'mon we customize everything else about NWN... why wouldn't we want our own avatars too?



But yeah, our regular playerbase was fine with adding CEP... most so far are fine with haks as well. I just don't want to close the door on new server hoppers. Personally, I had no issue downloading and installing a hak just to try a server if they made the download and install process easy. And trust me, some did not. Remembering how aggravating it was to put in a set of disorganized haks, I won't do that to any players myself.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 08:24:09 pm »


               

Jenna WSI wrote...

As a player, do you have a problem with downloading haks in order to try a server? Would you rather just be able to login and give it a go... or does all that custom content appeal to you more? 

There's a few new tilesets (worms, wild woods) that I've been drooling over.. but I'm not sure how much work the average player really wants to put into testing a server. Thanks for the imput.

Actually as player, I had problem with haks '<img'>. When I was trying random servers, I skipped those required haks or CEP2. But if I knew that server is cool I would have not problem with that, which is how I think as a builder ':kissing:'. Anyway have CEP(2) in name of module is really good idea, same with links to haks in module description '<img'>.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Jenna WSI

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 08:26:14 pm »


               Thanks, we do have CEP2 in the server name on GS, just so people know.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 08:30:33 pm »


               We are not normal. Let me say that again. We who are here are not normal players.



Would our base have a problem downloading a hak to play on our server? No. Woudl a New Player looking for a server been inclined. Some will. Some will not.



I feel your pain as I want Worms stuff or Amethyst Archer Quivers. But most normal players, rather than us hardcore fantatics of course mind. People justw ant to play. Of the Top Five Populater Servers, only Higher Ground I think has its own haks. The other few use CEP or none.



So depends on what you are doing this for as in player numbers or because you want to do it. And at this Stage in the NWN World I would say almost all of us are doing it because we love it.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2010, 08:45:51 pm »


               Maybe I'm just cynical, but I myself couldn't bear to let pesky logistics get in the way of something I'm passionate about... Anyone who cares more about getting more players than realizing their vision has already lost my interest. Make yourself a world created flawlessly in your own image and half a dozen genuinely interested players you get along with, and you'll have a much better time of it playing small-time-god than trying to cater to the masses in my opinion.

...so uh, yeah, cynical. ':bandit:' And quite possibly slightly biased, for reasons I'm certain I can't possibly fathom.
               
               

               


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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2010, 08:53:03 pm »


               Which is why I stated that last line, six.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 08:53:41 pm »


               

_six wrote...

Anyone who cares more about getting more players than realizing their vision has already lost my interest.

No you are not, this is very great insight.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 09:04:55 pm »


               

TSMDude wrote...

Which is why I stated that last line, six.

And why I should actually read threads I post in. Not to worry!
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2010, 09:25:45 pm »


               

ShaDoOoW wrote...

_six wrote...

Anyone who cares more about getting more players than realizing their vision has already lost my interest.

No you are not, this is very great insight.


Agreed, couldn't have said it better.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2010, 09:43:29 pm »


               

_six wrote...

Anyone who cares more about getting more players than realizing their vision has already lost my interest.


What he said.