Shia Luck wrote...
AndarianTD wrote...
I would recommend that the modules forum be specifically identified as a forum for Single Player. In practice, that's what it's traditionally been for. MP modules are few, and if they have to go somewhere I think they have much more in common with PWs than SP mods.
I still have to disagree with this point. I have played in all 3 ways, (4 if we count having a DM with friends as a 4th way) and it is PWs that stand out as being a completely different thing in my opinion. There is a world of difference between going online to meet new people to play with on a Persistent World and downloading a module from NWVault to play with your friends (and possibly a DM). Many PWs are not available on the vault for download, you either go to the PW or don't play it.
I suppose this is partly a matter of perspective, but let me explain the perspective from which I thought that the forum separation should be between "Single Player" and the various varieties of "Multiplayer" (MP mods and PWs). To me as an SP-only player and builder, the "world of difference" is really between going online to play socially
at all, whether in a PW or an MP or DM'd mod with friends, vs. playing in the
personal experience offered by an SP mod.
I do accept the point that MP modules are also different from PWs. But multiplayer / social gaming
in general is very different from SP gaming and creates a very different kind of play experience. In several years of participation on the NWN Modules forum (my regular "hangout" on the Bioboards), I rarely remember discussion of playing modules in MP as opposed to SP ever coming up at all. It's just not where the focus of most people who play SP mods seems to be, most of whom I think do
not play NWN MP.
With a module available on the vault for download that is designed to be SP OR MP, such as the many PnP conversions or titles like Aielund or Citadel, the experience is much closer to playing an SP module than playing on a PW. I can't see any reason why people who have played the same module would not be able to contribute to a discussion about it, whether they played it in SP or MP.
In my personal experience of playing with around 20-30 other people over the years in MP modules we downloaded and ran ourselves, all of them also played SP modules. I can think of only 3 (myself included) who had tried PWs. I think it is fairly common to see posters claiming that they only play PWs and never modules tho, no?
That's not the only way to look at it, though. While many non-PW MP players may also play and feel an affinity for SP, do most SP players have a similar view of MP play? I don't, and I don't think others do either. I suspect that those
do play both SP and MP may tend to see the differences between them as of lesser significance, and consequently see MP and SP as being more similar, than those who don't play MP. I'm also not sure that fairly rare MP/SP hybrid mods like Aielund and Citadel provide much of a counter-example. Since they're also SP mods, there's no reason that someone who played them in MP shouldn't be able to contribute to discussion about them in an SP modules forum.
PW players would have little to say in a discussion of an MP module like Aielund and players of MP modules who do not go online to PWs would likewise have little to contribute to PW discussions. The forums are about communication between people so I think this is the salient point.
Understood, but that's my point as well. MP play of any kind is so alien to my focus as an SP player/modder that I would have nothing to contribute to (or any interest in) discussion about it. I may or may not be typical of most SP players in that regard, but to whatever extent that I am it may be a point worth considering.
Other than giving MP/DM mods their own forum I don't know that there's a good answer to this question. I'll certainly welcome them in the NWN Modules forum if that's the decision, though.
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Modifié par AndarianTD, 22 juillet 2010 - 12:30 .
