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Legacy_s e n

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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2010, 06:08:52 am »


               ok, im glad some of you solved!! personally tonight i reinstalled (i was having the white texture issue on dds textures) nwn (currently i have installed nwn on a geforce 7025 (integrated card) and i got it working on xp32, using the late 258.96 original nvidia drivers, without a single edit on the control panel: so here i may list a few things i noticed--->



a-its good to install and update nwn with the antivirus turned OFF, it seems some antivirus doesnt like the way the engine updates dds (not sure about it, maybe someone can confirm)



b-in the previous installation i got to choose with the low fps issue OR the white dds texture issue



c-now, with a clean nwn installation with the antivirus turned off, and the video drivers removed and reinstalled with the late version, i got no need to configure it



d-rememeber sometimes copy/paste nwn configuration files (.ini) may slow down the game and cause issues, so its good to add manually the edits you need in notepad, using the ini that come with the installation



last... i still have an issue with some dds transparency on alpha layers, but the game runs like a fable '<img'>

               
               

               
            

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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2010, 04:32:19 pm »


               I think it's as Sen suggested, related to threaded optimization. As is, NWN acts funky with multi-core CPUs, so it's not abnormal that a GPU related function should cause NWN to crash/freeze up/run slowly.



And honestly, 20 FPS isn't as terrible as you make it out to be.  Typical/older cinema movie productions run around 18 FPS in many circumstances. While low FPS does put a strain on your eyes, it's not any greater strain than staring at sub 75 HZ refresh rate for an extended period of time.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2010, 07:19:16 pm »


               Just to help clarify the troubleshoothing, It must be the the dirvers vs the new "TECH" on the 400 series.



Just this week, I've replaced a 4 years old ASUS 7600GT that busted for a ZOTAC GF 9800 GT ECO Edition for a second system I have.



Using the latest stable release drivers  from Nvidia and there are no FPS issues in NWN and that even with "Shiny Water" and "Environment Shadows" turned ON.



Here is the relevant info on the system.



Gigabyte microATX motherboard with intel G45 chipset (PCIe 2.0 x16) slot

Intel Pentium 45nm E6500 2.93 Mhz Dual-Core

G.Skill 2 Gb DDR2 800Mhz ram

7200rpm Hard Drives

using OnBoard Sound (Realtek Chip)

Windows XP 32 Bit



Run NWN at 1680x1050(Display Native) 30-58 FPS (varied)

               
               

               
            

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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2010, 01:59:58 am »


               Yes the problem is such that the game is still playable, but for me the slow frame rate is distracting enough that it really annoys me which in turn makes playing the game frustrating. This is doubly so considering that I've been gaming on a nwn server for the last four years and now I can't due to this issue. It's just too annoying. yes I tried Sen's quick fix but with all custom content everything turns white with no textures. In my mind it's just swapping one problem for another and in the end isn't a really a fix at all.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2010, 04:41:24 am »


               There are some white textures on LoC even and to my knowledge they do not have custom content. I look past this at the time though as atleast I can play again. I would like a true fix though.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2010, 03:48:14 pm »


               Same problem, no solution, yet.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2010, 05:27:26 pm »


               Okay new info regarding on my problem:



The new layer on clothing (one with apron and robe etc.) the one that wasn't there before 1.69 seems to make all problems for me. Every time there's NPC with clothing that has one of those new clothing layers on armor my computer goes down to 10 - 20 fps from normal hundreds of frames per second.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2010, 06:53:15 pm »


               No wait, problem was in other sections of the game as well.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2010, 10:28:55 pm »


               I fear this issue will never be resolved satisfactorily
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2010, 05:00:26 am »


               

Grieyls wrote...

I fear this issue will never be resolved satisfactorily

Well, we are talking about support for something being experienced with what could be conservatively described as an "old" game.

I'd hope a fix would be made, but I'd not be surprised if there isn't one.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2010, 03:38:19 pm »


               New WHQLs just released:

http://www.nvidia.co...hql-driver.html



Other Improvements

   * Adds support for OpenGL 4.1 for GeForce 400 series GPUs.



These made no change on my old 8800GT.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2010, 04:59:52 am »


               The latest drives remove the extension limit. Thus making the game unplayable.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2010, 10:13:32 pm »


               260.89, makes NwN un-playable? Hm.





Well at the moment I have



GTX 460

258.96 Driver installed



I went into Nivida control panel, Manage 3D settings, Program settings, and Selected Nwn.exe



Extension limit is set to OFF



Threaded Optimization is ON





NwN runs smoothly. Tree's are white... texture on ground seems 16BIT even though set at 64.



Very playable, though Very Ugly.



So 260,89 makes NWN un-playable you say?





~ Chris



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2010, 10:53:17 pm »


               Update: I  have done almost everything I can think of in my Nvidia Control panel.



Seems I got it backwards. It also seems to be only the Extension limit that causes the problem.



Extension limit set to OFF = No 16 Bit textures, No white trees,docks, bushes, ect.

15 - 20 FPS.....



Extension limit set to ON = 16 Bit Ugly ground, White images, Very disturbing..

55 - 60 FPS.... (Mostly always 60)



That's what I narrowed it down to, nothing else really improved anything/did much to help.



Hmmmmmmm...





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« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2010, 07:24:29 am »


               I no longer saw the extension limit option wh en i installed the latest drivers. Are you sure you are using them?