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Legacy_HipMaestro

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« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2010, 04:08:56 pm »


               

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I wouldn't worry about Hip, Amers. I guess it was his time of the month, and let's face it, we have no understanding of how awful and debilitating PMT (Preposterous Male Thinking) must be. At some point he'll realise he just insulted his own mother, no?
'<img'>@Hip

Mom has always thrived on any attention thrown in her direction and is quite capable of defending "her honor".  A wet flounder comes to mind.

*quickly jotting down Shia's PMT reference*

But just to be overly-claritive for a moment (since it has been misconstrued by those matronly protective instincts, I suppose), my question was simply an attempt to decipher what roleplaying could be possibly derived by using the console. 

*sigh*  I don't play for the battles, I play for the role playing.

Using the console to control the environment rather than via what the designers intended, I can only perceive the role of an ineffectual personality (i.e. "weanie") that prefers others in the party to do all the "dirty work" (i.e. normal combat).  Or perhaps... a god-like personality steeped in the vicarious thrill of altering their environment at will.  Dunno.  I was hoping to get KooKoo's reasoning for the comment, but instead sparked mommie's ire.  It happens. '<img'>

Perhaps the original console-using comment was more an attempt to be humorous rather than lend some alternative viewpoint to the OP's question.  If so, the humor-detection part of the brain was excised from this skull long ago.  And in that case, I offer my apologies for attempting to glean some topical information from a jibe.
               
               

               


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« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2010, 07:40:55 pm »


               

HipMaestro wrote...
Using the console to control the environment rather than via what the designers intended, I can only perceive the role of an ineffectual personality (i.e. "weanie") that prefers others in the party to do all the "dirty work" (i.e. normal combat).  Or perhaps... a god-like personality steeped in the vicarious thrill of altering their environment at will.  Dunno.  I was hoping to get KooKoo's reasoning for the comment, but instead sparked mommie's ire.  It happens. '<img'>

Perhaps the original console-using comment was more an attempt to be humorous rather than lend some alternative viewpoint to the OP's question.  If so, the humor-detection part of the brain was excised from this skull long ago.  And in that case, I offer my apologies for attempting to glean some topical information from a jibe.


Hello. '<img'> 

It was entirely a joke. 'Posted  Honestly, it felt like you were being quite nasty, which is why I dropped out of the thread.  The truth is, I really don't care much for battle.  I like playing games with stories, much as I enjoy reading a book.

When reading Jean Auel's books, I skip over the parts where she talks about plants.  When I play modules, I go through the battle most of the time without ever cheating.  However, there comes a point where many module builders make a battle too difficult or too long and it just doesn't interest me, so at times I do cheat to get through it.

My standard gaming routine is this: 
1. Play the game/module with no cheats and without looking at a walkthrough.
2. If the module is unreasonably difficult, or for some reason I just can't figure something out, I'll cheat/look at the walkthrough.
3.  If I play a second time through, I'll likely cheat through battles.  The way I figure it, the author intended the story to be finished if the player makes it past that battle.  If I get through that battle, I get to see the ending sooner.  '<img'>
4. I almost always play rpg modules and games instead of action modules or first person shooter type games.
5. I love Final Fantasy stories, but the incessant need to level up drives me bonkers.
6. When I do cheat, I fix it so that I can get through as quickly as possible, then go and change everything back.

Another thing is that most of my characters have slight flaws . . . (no comment necessary, amers & shia) '<img'>  They always have purple hair, because the emo bunnies ambush them all and dye it.  My fighter has terrible will saves and can be easily killed by magic, My cleric tries to handle all the battles by himself.
Out of all of them, my sorcerer is awesome.  Everybody thinks so.  Just ask him. 'Posted

I play games to have fun and usually succeed whether I cheat here and there or not.  I always do my best to back up my co-players although sometimes I don't succeed, and I make my modules in a way that I hope others will enjoy.  I even tell them they can cheat if they want to. 'Posted
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2010, 09:12:06 pm »


               Yeah, I like the purple hair myself.  Legend has it that the love of purple color is a sign of mental instability going back into ancient Roman and Greek history, but I still like it nonetheless.  Roleplaying a static set of choices especially in a SP environment can be challenging, but good designers usually present a realistic set of options that can be played out pretty well.  So, you got me!  I must work on my humor-recognition skills which is about as dry as can be imagined.  Game on, KooKoo! '<img'>
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2010, 10:02:19 pm »


               I'm not mentally unstable.  *turns to emo bunnies*  Am I?  *turns back*  They said I'm totally mentally stable, so you don't need to worry about a thing.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2010, 10:34:57 pm »


               Those bunnies are about again???  *Searches for emo bunny swatter*  



Leave KooKoo alone bunnies!  OR ELSE!  



(Note to humor-impaired readers: I'M JUST KIDDING.  I'm not threatening bunnies.  Just to clarify.)



And Hip, my dear, you didn't spark any ire until you called me illogical.  I wasn't even talking to you specifically in the first place, I was talking mostly to my dear friend VPJ, who knew full well that I was teasing (as was, I thought, obvious given my little winky symbol at the end).  Your assumption was faulty which probably makes your logic in calling me illogical...well, illogical!  '<img'>  



*Runs off to do some overly emotional, attention-mongering things lest she fail to fit into Hip's stereotypical 'mommy' mold*
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2010, 11:23:55 pm »


               

KooKoo88 wrote...
Another thing is that most of my characters have slight flaws . . . (no comment necessary, amers & shia) '<img'> 


Awwwwww '<img'>

HipMaestro wrote...

Yeah, I like the purple hair myself.  
Legend has it that the love of purple color is a sign of mental
instability going back into ancient Roman and Greek history,....


Ahhhh, that explains a lot. I knew there was a reason for all the flaws I am not allowed to comment on [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

KooKoo88 wrote...

I'm not mentally unstable....


Are you sure I can't comment?   ':devil:' :innocent: ':devil:' :innocent:
               
               

               


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« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2010, 11:26:34 pm »


               

Shia Luck wrote...

KooKoo88 wrote...

I'm not mentally unstable....


Are you sure I can't comment?   ':devil:' :innocent: ':devil:' :innocent:

Of course, he only mentioned you and amers.  ':devil:'  He forgot about me, which just goes to show you how mentally unstable he is. 

His emo bunnies need notepads, I think.  '<img'>
               
               

               


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« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2010, 11:43:15 pm »


               

VPJ wrote...

Shia Luck wrote...

KooKoo88 wrote...

I'm not mentally unstable....


Are you sure I can't comment?   ':devil:' :innocent: ':devil:' :innocent:

Of course, he only mentioned you and amers.  ':devil:'  He forgot about me, which just goes to show you how mentally unstable he is. 

His emo bunnies need notepads, I think.  '<img'>


*sigh*  I should have put you first! 
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2010, 12:25:14 am »


               

Westan Willows wrote...

Muric wrote...

at least he set the bar low, LOL.   he could have said "SetSTR 200, SetDEX 200, SetWIS 200, SetCON 200" :innocent:
should be noted STR gets a bit glitchy after 145 though... but the above would produce monstrous saves.  and of course "dm_givegold"  no variable after, will yeild you the maximum number of gold you could have given yourself each time.  i think it's something around 9 trillion gold. *shrugs*


 Great way to DIE!!! With a STR of 200 you can lift 0lbs of weight. ':devil:'
 Try it ':lol:'

 if you don't want the encumberance dial it down to 100 STR.   Even if you don't, you won't die.   you'd have a natural AC of 105, and an insane tumble skill, not to mention HP.  They'd be lucky to even hit you, and would very likely be dead long before you with the +95 attack bonus and +95 damage bonus(@ 200 STR, with 100 STR it's 45 attack bonus and damage bonus) '<img'>  go ahead.. try.   besides... isn't that what bags of holding are for? ':whistle:'

***Edit***
just Killed an ancient black dragon, no armor, just an ordinary dagger in hand, and a healing potion.   was doing an average of 83 damage per hit. 200 str, 200 con, 200 wis, and 200 dex. *shrugs* :innocent:  Killed an adult with just two hits, so I felt the upgrade to the ancient was well called for :happy: took 6 or 7 to take it down.
               
               

               


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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2010, 05:19:18 pm »


               

Muric wrote...
***Edit***
just Killed an ancient black dragon, no armor, just an ordinary dagger in hand, and a healing potion.   was doing an average of 83 damage per hit. 200 str, 200 con, 200 wis, and 200 dex. *shrugs* :innocent:  Killed an adult with just two hits, so I felt the upgrade to the ancient was well called for :happy: took 6 or 7 to take it down.


roflmao!   I am not sure what is more sad: twinking the stats like that OR fighting an OC dragon with around 200 HP and thinking you are cool!  Seriously.  On a pw I used to play, we would play areas with the average monster having 500HP or more.  Area bosses had 1000's.   The few dragons that were around had 10,000++ HP.  And we didnt need to put our stats like that! 

What's next, putting your str at 900 and going out to kill rats then coming back and saying "guys, i hit this 10hp rat for 500damage!"

Honestly, what you do in the privacy of your own game is your business, but please, if you are going to brag about it, make it something worth bragging about!  btw, there is NOTHING in the bioware games worth bragging about! 

Thanks for the laugh though!  'Posted
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2010, 03:25:40 pm »


               What I think it all boils down to more then anything else is, how vivid is your own imagination? I was talking to a co-worker last night at the staff christmas dinner and he was telling me about his daughter and how he was a bit freaked out because she has such a vivid imagination. He said he can have her at a store and tell her she can't touch any of the toys but she can play with them in her mind any way she wants to. His other daughter almost immediately gets bored but the one with the vivid imagination can sit there for hours playing with all of the toys in her mind.

Some children might have an imaginary friend while they are growing up, and what my friend found out is that a child with such a vivid imagination like his daughter,  is capable of having a whole room full of imaginary friends. I think this also determines how immersive as an adult you can become while playing crpg's like NWN, if your imagination lets you go there, you can go anywhere.
               
               

               


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« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2010, 03:39:10 pm »


               

avado wrote...
roflmao!   I am not sure what is more sad: twinking the stats like that OR fighting an OC dragon with around 200 HP and thinking you are cool! 

I think the prize goes to putting down a light-hearted post while bragging about how uber the 10,000++ HP dragons were on a PW you played a while back.  Sounds like a bad take on the Four Yorkshiremen.

In my day we had to kill ancient black dragons with our bare hands, and at least fifty of our friends would be horribly killed before our eyes, and once we killed the dragon, we had to drag the body back to our village all the while crying over our friends' mutilated corpses, and then we'd clean an' dress the dragon and hold the strips of meat over an open flame with our hands because we didn't have frying pans or skewers or grills.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2010, 05:39:40 pm »


               

VPJ wrote...

avado wrote...
roflmao!   I am not sure what is more sad: twinking the stats like that OR fighting an OC dragon with around 200 HP and thinking you are cool! 

I think the prize goes to putting down a light-hearted post while bragging about how uber the 10,000++ HP dragons were on a PW you played a while back.  Sounds like a bad take on the Four Yorkshiremen.

In my day we had to kill ancient black dragons with our bare hands, and at least fifty of our friends would be horribly killed before our eyes, and once we killed the dragon, we had to drag the body back to our village all the while crying over our friends' mutilated corpses, and then we'd clean an' dress the dragon and hold the strips of meat over an open flame with our hands because we didn't have frying pans or skewers or grills.

At least you didn't lose all of your friends to a vorpal rabbit like some of us!
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2010, 09:31:42 pm »


               

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At least you didn't lose all of your friends to a vorpal rabbit like some of us!


I actually made a character that had devastating critical in Badger form!  Used it to freak the hell out of players when they would come up to pet the badger and get killled!!  Oh the fun! 

One time I had a friend turn me into a rabbit form, which also had the same attacks as badger, and I remember going to eat some grass.  I remember this guy got in my way and i guess he rolled a 1 or something, cuz he died with one hit.  Poor guy.   SOrry man.  It wasnt vorpal, it was dev crit (vorpal doesnt work on nwn, to my knowledge).  If only I was kidding  'Posted  I have literally done it all, i think (except RP in solo games).
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2010, 03:33:57 am »


               

At least you didn't lose all of your friends to a vorpal rabbit like some of us!



All of your friends?  What about me?  I'm still here...  *Epic pout*  '<img'>
               
               

               


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