Is this cheating?

[Legacy_avado]

               two things



1) You CANNOT RP in a solo game!  I know there are those that think that you can, but they dont know what its like to talk to a real person.  If the dialogue is pre-done for you, it is NOT RP!



That leads directly to..



2) since you are the ONLY one playing, there is no such thing as CHEATING!  



It comes down to you.  If you believe it is cheating (and you wouldnt have asked if you didnt) then its cheating, period.  If you can sleep at night for doing it, then great.  



Now, if you really feel terrible, go out and get the companions some new and better gear.  That way you can justify it to yourself.  But remember, YOU CAN NOT RP IN A SOLO GAME!
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shia Luck]

               

avado wrote...

1) You CANNOT RP in a solo game!  I know there are those that think that you can, but they dont know what its like to talk to a real person.  If the dialogue is pre-done for you, it is NOT RP!

I disagree. RP is about playing a character. Some modules will not provide the type of choices you'd like or need for that character, but some modules will. RP is also about buying into the world and situation, and most importantly... RP is about using your imagination.

Some people RP by imagining themselves, their real self in the world. Some RP by taking on a very different character than themseleves. Some play stereotypes, some play personalities, some others are like the author of a book and the character is not them at all. They are all forms of RP to those people who play them.

That leads directly to..

2) since you are the ONLY one playing, there is no such thing as CHEATING!

It comes down to you.  If you believe it is cheating (and you wouldnt have asked if you didnt) then its cheating, period.  If you can sleep at night for doing it,...

Yip.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_amers1015]

               Ditto Shia.  I was about to type something very similar myself.  



As far as the OP...I wouldn't consider that cheating myself.  I'm sure plenty of henchies would be more than happy to steal *your* stuff and sell it given the chance.  '>  And the more goody two shoes types would be happy to donate their things to the cause, no?  *grin*
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_HipMaestro]

               I'm always amazed how we try to impose some sort of RP-value in a predetermined environment.  I mean, in reality rummaging through a corpse's pockets for a few coins or a pair of boots is downright ghoulish.  Yet we seem to yield readily to that premise, no?  You'd think we'd at least don a pair of surgical gloves so as not to contract some sort of fatal illness.  But even a LG character has no compunction frisking a cadaver even if it could be their sainted Uncle Harry who lay decomposing at their feet. Yuckk!

That random looting of chests and armoires, private property, that clearly we have no right to even touch is another convention imposed by the game itself that has no basis in reality.  I do like the way BG maintained at least a random element in looting many containers so that you could well end up in jail in the process of satisfying your thieving compulsion.  I suppose there is custom content out there that simulates that, though I haven't encountered any myself.... yet. '>

Yeah, trying to RP SP is difficult.  You need to set up some some of personal guidelines to adhere to, but those will always be subjective and may not coincide with others' opinions of  the consequences or "intent".  And there are just better venues for true RP out there in the community.  Lotsa luck RP-ing if you are a RL manic-depressive like someone I am well acquainted with :innocent:  Never a crowd favorite, believe me.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shia Luck]

               ...and the neutral ones? *cheeky grin*



Vansen,  All that matter si you enjoy yourself, no? I think I used to cheat quite a bit.... I mostly don't these days, but I certainly know a million ways to cheat so I must've learnt them somehow, no? *grin*
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Muric]

               

Vansen Elamber wrote...

I just wanted to add to this that I would not have had to sell the Henchies gear if the developers would not have made so many chests with traps on them that can kill me and then once it is open I get 1 gold piece for my efforts...lol

eh... heh... yeah.. i agree with this portion a bit.  the problem is they set loot to be almost completely random.  i've unlocked and disarmed traps on a chest, with pretty steep DCs, and only came out of the ordeal with a single arrow...an ordinary one no less.    the point is... at lvl 9+ it is a very bad thing being near death, have no potions or spells left, and only find a potions of cure light wounds in a chest '>.   Of course there is always the risk of a critical failure at disarming a trap and dying as a result.   i've been in his shoes once or twice '>

anyway.. it's more productive to just go into debug mode and spawn yourself an astral blade +8(dm_spawnitem x2_wswmls006), then sell it for the well over 200,000 gold...which is what i do at the beginning of the OC and expansions.  then you can stock up on as many potions as you'll need each chapter, and buy new gear should you find something worth while in a store.   all the while your henchmen get to keep the cloths on their back :innocent:
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_avado]

               

Shia Luck wrote...
I disagree. RP is about playing a character. Some modules will not provide the type of choices you'd like or need for that character, but some modules will. RP is also about buying into the world and situation, and most importantly... RP is about using your imagination.

Some people RP by imagining themselves, their real self in the world. Some RP by taking on a very different character than themseleves. Some play stereotypes, some play personalities, some others are like the author of a book and the character is not them at all. They are all forms of RP to those people who play them.

So I guess ANY book is RP then, no?  Why?  You "buy into" the story and, most importantly, you use your imagination when you read a novel!  Oh right!  Sorry, those are not the criteria of RP, those are what make a GOOD book, TV show, or movie.

You can also have sex alone too.  It isnt really sex though...     (my apologize to the little ones reading this.  I assumed this was an older forum)
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_jmlzemaggo]

               Years after years, NWN became part of my life. Gaming is far from being innocent. A beautiful woman might be innocent. What she might do to some men isn't, but depending on the men.
I do RP NWN, as a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure I even use it towards my real life. I learned quite much about myself in the Forgotten Realms, even if I never went there... but spent more of my life beyond those forbidden bounds... some of those days... than where I live.
The other word I know for roleplaying is immersion. If I agree with avado, a good book being stronger than yourself won't allow much in RP, a good module does. As to a book being an entire universe by itself, a module only shows you a universe... in which you're allowed to do pretty much anything you want, beside the tiny storyline and even within it.
I'm a "goody two shoes" (Is that how you call it? Fun!) kind of guy, and playing "evil" for instance is believe me very much RP for me.
It took me 2 years of NWN before being able to access this god power.
Now I'm even robbing banks in daytime!
If this is not roleplaying, then what is.

Kids, don't rob banks without your parents watch or approval.
And never forget:
No kill, no bill.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par jmlzemaggo, 07 décembre 2010 - 08:07 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_KooKoo88]

               Amateurs.



This is cheating:



~DebugMode 1

~dm_god

~SetSTR 80

~dm_givegold 99000000

~DebugMode 0



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[Legacy_Kail Pendragon]

               There's no cheating in SP. Simple as that.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_avado]

               

KooKoo88 wrote...

Amateurs.

This is cheating:

~DebugMode 1
~dm_god
~SetSTR 80
~dm_givegold 99000000
~DebugMode 0

'>

nope, that is not cheating.  It is, however, sad.  NWN is such a simple game, that if you have to resort to this sort of thing, I think it best that you hand in your cd/dvd and retire.  My guess is, kookoo still died after this! 
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_VPJ]

               Well, I would say that all the MP we do and with all the easy gold to be had, he still dies and dies and dies...

Course, I would say that if I didn't die more often than he does, but I do so I won't...even tho he does...
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_KooKoo88]

               *sigh*  I don't play for the battles, I play for the role playing.

Don't be mean to me. You'll make me sad.   <------ see?  See what you did to me?  That's a sad smiley.  That's right.  I pulled out the sad smiley.  You should totally feel bad and stuff.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par KooKoo88, 08 décembre 2010 - 04:37 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Muric]

               at least he set the bar low, LOL.   he could have said "SetSTR 200, SetDEX 200, SetWIS 200, SetCON 200" :innocent:
should be noted STR gets a bit glitchy after 145 though... but the above would produce monstrous saves.  and of course "dm_givegold"  no variable after, will yeild you the maximum number of gold you could have given yourself each time.  i think it's something around 9 trillion gold. *shrugs*
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Muric, 08 décembre 2010 - 08:33 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_HipMaestro]

               

KooKoo88 wrote...
*sigh*  I don't play for the battles, I play for the role playing.

I'm confused.  What exactly are you roleplaying using the console... a weanie?
               
               

               

                     Modifié par HipMaestro, 08 décembre 2010 - 04:04 .