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Legacy_Sarielle

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« Reply #1170 on: November 04, 2011, 03:26:36 am »


               

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

SPOILER alert if for some reason HOTU virgins are checking this thread:

After talking about playing evil in RPGs, it made me wonder. Assuming you are playing lawful evil (and keep your promises), could you work this romance with an evil PC? Again, assuming you aren't pointlessly rude or betray the Seer.


Seeing as I typically play Chaotic Goods and Chaotic Neutrals, I'd have no clue. If my computer I run NWN wasn't such a <insert bad word that rhymes with evil witch>, I'd go try a LE and see if it works. (Probably could, if you're two-faced and act like you care).


Hmm, that wouldn't be terribly lawful behaviour though, would it? Lying?

Imo "evil" doesn't necessarily mean "cannot care about a single living thing besides yourself." Sure, you care for yourself/your wants more than anything else...but I see no reason why a lawful evil character couldn't have some sense of loyalty, or even love (in that limited capacity of putting themselves first) and not betray the Seer to not lose Valen. (You don't break your promises as a lawful character, remember.)

I think I just talked myself into an attempt, lol.

...unless by "pretending to care" you mean, not constantly announce to Valen you don't give 2 hoots about the Seer. In which case...good plan! lol.
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1171 on: November 04, 2011, 08:39:13 pm »


               

Sarielle wrote...

<Snippy>

(You don't break your promises as a lawful character, remember.)


If you see it as lying, you could cross your fingers behind your back. Works every time. '<img'>

Could also probably work with a NE, now that I think about it.

...unless by "pretending to care" you mean, not constantly announce to Valen you don't give 2 hoots about the Seer. In which case...good plan! lol.


This is more what I meant. '<img'> Give it a go and see if it works.
               
               

               


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« Reply #1172 on: November 04, 2011, 11:50:50 pm »


               I believe I shall, when I get some time. Probably start with SOU...haven't played that in ages. Finally give myself an excuse to use the doggie! Too bad Warlock isn't included as a NWN class. Would be perfect for the character I have in mind.
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1173 on: November 18, 2011, 08:30:01 pm »


               'Image

by phoq. A good old KFMer back in the days.
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1174 on: November 19, 2011, 11:40:50 pm »


               "You wants Deekin?"

Heh. Good times. '^_^'
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1175 on: November 21, 2011, 10:36:38 am »


               I totally adore Deekin.


Edit for TOP:

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Shamelessly reposted my own artword.
               
               

               


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« Reply #1176 on: November 21, 2011, 04:28:53 pm »


               Hello Valen fans.

I have a little problem with the Valen romance and I thought maybe you can help me out. Somehow I think my game got bugged and the romance didn´t start in chapter 2.

Spoilers…..


The last talk I had was about how he left the abyss and went to look for the Seer. By this time I had done 3 of the 5 quests. I had the Illithid and the Beholders left. So I went to the Illithid city and after killing the elder brain I slept and there was no conversation with Valen, I thought that maybe it was because I had to keep progressing in the game so I did the Beholder´s lair and nothing. I realized something was off when I had the dream with the Valsharess and still nothing from him... (it is my first game but after playing so many bioware games you just know your romance is going to say something before a big battle!) Won the battle, killed the Valsharess, gone to Cania... nothing. He doesn´t say a thing and when I ask him about what he wanted to say earlier he keeps telling me about the spider caves under the Beholder´s lair. So I left the game and started to look for his dialogue lines on the internet to see what was I missing and I found out that the romance should have been started by now so I wonder if there is a way to unlock the romance without having to play from the Undead lair again. Can anyone help me out with this? Is there a way to trigger his dialogues so I can load a pre-final battle game and start the romance before Chapter 3?
Also I realized that there wasn´t much flirting with him because it was always Nathyrra who kept talking to me about the dangers ahead of us. So I am wondering if that could have affected the romance. The only real dialogues we had were those after resting and as I said the last one was when he apologizes for being distrustful.



End of spoilers…

So any help would be more than welcome… thanks!
               
               

               


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« Reply #1177 on: November 21, 2011, 09:22:58 pm »


               

Kyda wrote...

Hello Valen fans.

I have a little problem with the Valen romance and I thought maybe you can help me out. Somehow I think my game got bugged and the romance didn´t start in chapter 2.

Spoilers…..


The last talk I had was about how he left the abyss and went to look for the Seer. By this time I had done 3 of the 5 quests. I had the Illithid and the Beholders left. So I went to the Illithid city and after killing the elder brain I slept and there was no conversation with Valen, I thought that maybe it was because I had to keep progressing in the game so I did the Beholder´s lair and nothing. I realized something was off when I had the dream with the Valsharess and still nothing from him... (it is my first game but after playing so many bioware games you just know your romance is going to say something before a big battle!) Won the battle, killed the Valsharess, gone to Cania... nothing. He doesn´t say a thing and when I ask him about what he wanted to say earlier he keeps telling me about the spider caves under the Beholder´s lair. So I left the game and started to look for his dialogue lines on the internet to see what was I missing and I found out that the romance should have been started by now so I wonder if there is a way to unlock the romance without having to play from the Undead lair again. Can anyone help me out with this? Is there a way to trigger his dialogues so I can load a pre-final battle game and start the romance before Chapter 3?
Also I realized that there wasn´t much flirting with him because it was always Nathyrra who kept talking to me about the dangers ahead of us. So I am wondering if that could have affected the romance. The only real dialogues we had were those after resting and as I said the last one was when he apologizes for being distrustful.



End of spoilers…

So any help would be more than welcome… thanks!


Humph, I am really such at trigger stuff manually like this. So as much as we all hate, I would suggest you to go back and play the whole lovely Underdark quest again.

Like KOTOR series, the only way to make sure you don't miss anything is keep talking to him like there is no tomorrow. A new line option would be there if there is something new. BioWare games worked mysterious ways in those days. '<img'>

Sorry can't help you more.

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« Reply #1178 on: November 22, 2011, 01:16:38 am »


               Thank you tankgirly, I guess i will have to play it again... 'Image
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1179 on: November 22, 2011, 01:50:16 am »


               

Kyda wrote...

Thank you tankgirly, I guess i will have to play it again... 'Image


It's fun to replay them.

Oh, btw, have you download the Valen patch? They fixed that littke glitch in Act 3 and we got more romance scene in it.
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1180 on: November 22, 2011, 03:21:56 pm »


               

tankgirly wrote...

It's fun to replay them.

Oh, btw, have you download the Valen patch? They fixed that littke glitch in Act 3 and we got more romance scene in it.


I downloaded a Valen fix and also some mimic dialog stuff... I was excited to try this but we'll see.
Yesterday I spent some time trying to fix the problem and I discovered something so I was wondering if you could help me out. Do you know how many dialogs does he have with you before saying that he loves you? And do you remember where exactly (meaning chapter) does he make his confession?

Spoilers....


After replaying the fight with the Valsharess I got a dialog in Cania (outside in the snow) where he said something about admiring me. I figured it was THE DIALOG because it started like one of the videos i saw in Youtube so that actually confused me since I was in act 3 already and I can't blame that to setting his Romance to 1 via debugmode because I had a similar conversation with Nathyrra a little later. So I guess that i was getting a frienship talk instad of a romance one?
End of Spoilers...

If you don't want to write Spoilers you can send me a message. Thanks!'<img'>

Edit: Nevermind, I found the answer reading through this thread. Thanks anyway
               
               

               


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« Reply #1181 on: November 22, 2011, 07:46:54 pm »


               

Kyda wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

It's fun to replay them.

Oh, btw, have you download the Valen patch? They fixed that littke glitch in Act 3 and we got more romance scene in it.


I downloaded a Valen fix and also some mimic dialog stuff... I was excited to try this but we'll see.
Yesterday I spent some time trying to fix the problem and I discovered something so I was wondering if you could help me out. Do you know how many dialogs does he have with you before saying that he loves you? And do you remember where exactly (meaning chapter) does he make his confession?

Spoilers....


After replaying the fight with the Valsharess I got a dialog in Cania (outside in the snow) where he said something about admiring me. I figured it was THE DIALOG because it started like one of the videos i saw in Youtube so that actually confused me since I was in act 3 already and I can't blame that to setting his Romance to 1 via debugmode because I had a similar conversation with Nathyrra a little later. So I guess that i was getting a frienship talk instad of a romance one?
End of Spoilers...

If you don't want to write Spoilers you can send me a message. Thanks!'<img'>

Edit: Nevermind, I found the answer reading through this thread. Thanks anyway


Glad you found it. Yep, that would be his confession! Arh, the stoic, romantic Valen ':wub:':wub:':wub:'
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1182 on: November 23, 2011, 03:24:11 pm »


                So I finally had the conversation. Thanks for the answers and the patience! 'B)'
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1183 on: November 24, 2011, 06:45:49 am »


               

Kyda wrote...

 So I finally had the conversation. Thanks for the answers and the patience! 'B)'



No worries.':wizard:'
               
               

               
            
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« Reply #1184 on: November 28, 2011, 07:05:14 pm »


               tankgirly, that's such a pretty drawing! Is the girl one of your characters or just a random girl?
               
               

               
            
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