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Legacy_Talon

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« on: July 14, 2014, 12:00:19 pm »


               

I want add a limit for skills bonus gained by all object. (+20 in total ).


How could do it?


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Legacy_MagicalMaster

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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 05:28:36 pm »


               

Periodically (such as when an item is equipped) compare the base rank of every skill plus the attribute modifier to the actual rank.


 


For example, someone might have 19 ranks in concentration + 6 from constitution (say, 2 base constitution and another 4 from constitution items) for 25 total -- if they have a total of 43 then the difference is 18, so don't need to do anything.  If they had 52 total then the difference is 27 so you need to apply a decrease of 7 to the skill.


 


You'll also need to handle feats that give bonuses (including (Epic) Skill Foci and things like Silver Palm).


 


Some big things to watch out for are death (removes such penalties) and Restoration spells -- need to stop them from removing the penalty or reapply the penalty after the spell is cast or the player comes back to life.



               
               

               
            

Legacy_Talon

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 06:04:01 pm »


               

I don't want limit total skill points but only the bonus given by items or temporaly spells , like for stats that could not be more than +12 (green)


 


So if i have a ring +2 strenght +15 acrobat, a armor +5st +15 acrobat ,a spell with +7str. and +10 acrobat =  still 12str + and 40 acrobat..but i want limit this to 20!


               
               

               
            

Legacy_Shadooow

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 06:18:24 pm »


               


I don't want limit total skill points but only the bonus given by items or temporaly spells , like for stats that could not be more than +12 (green)


 


So if i have a ring +2 strenght +15 acrobat, a armor +5st +15 acrobat ,a spell with +7str. and +10 acrobat =  still 12str + and 40 acrobat..but i want limit this to 20!




there is a nice way how to control item properties stacking - i did that with "DnD 3.0: no aability bonuses stacking" However spells are very problematic to workaround and its very messy, basically the best way is to do this in (pseudo) heartbeat just as MM suggest.


 


but I think the nwnx_fixes plugin for NWNX allows to modify this cap? well it certainly allows to modify ab cap and ability bonuses cap...


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 06:19:31 pm »


               


I don't want limit total skill points but only the bonus given by items or temporaly spells , like for stats that could not be more than +12 (green)




 


There is no solid cap that you can place without NWNX or the like.  MM's suggestion would be dealing with only items and spells, since it is factoring out all the other sources (ability modifier, ranks and feats).  If you want to create a new skill with different caps, you could try creating a different system with local integer updates instead of the default skill checks.


               
               

               
            

Legacy_MagicalMaster

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 07:07:20 pm »


               


I don't want limit total skill points but only the bonus given by items or temporaly spells , like for stats that could not be more than +12 (green)


 


So if i have a ring +2 strenght +15 acrobat, a armor +5st +15 acrobat ,a spell with +7str. and +10 acrobat =  still 12str + and 40 acrobat..but i want limit this to 20!




 


That's what my system does, except I originally included bonuses to base stats.  So with that change, you'd want the following


 


(Total Skill Ranks) - (Base Skill Ranks + Base Ability Modifier + Feat Bonuses)


 


And if that number is > 20 then apply a penalty equal to the number minus 20.