invisible torch - possible?

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               i would like to hide torch in the hand - would that be even possible (without nwnx hack) with a new empty torch model? I suspect that the character would still had the left hand stretched in front - that wouldnt look very well too. Any other ideas to make this possible?
               
               

               
            

[Baaleos]

               Is the end goal just so you can have illumination without having your hand in the air?

If so - could an onEquip vfx of 'light'  be what you need?

Eg - Find an object/item that can be equipped with no appearance, and have it so when the object is equipped, it applies the desired visual effect to the player. (light effect)
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               end goal is to allow having (CEP) flag in the hand of monk character without the ugly flag appearance - aka invisible cloak
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_gutwrench66kg]

               Confused on this one...

You want to use a specific model (a flag included in the CEP) that's of an item type that uses an arm extended animation... but you don't want them to extend the arm, or see the flag? And what' specific about it being a monk class doing the equipping?
               
               

               

                     Modifié par usagreco66kg, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:55 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               The flag/holy symbol/torch is specific in that monk character can wear it and retain his monk AC feature, it isnt count as shield while it is in same slot.

This gives the advantage to the fists monks as they can equip these items to compensate lost of the arms slot. However, these item models are especially ugly mainly in unarmed combat. Monk with flag looks really stupid and also there are issues with the flag animate. What I would like is to allow hide this item model so it won't appear on character possibly at all. Just like invisible cloak.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:52 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Zwerkules]

               There's no problem with making the model invisible, but as long as it is a torch the monk will still look as if he was holding a torch.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_ShadowM]

               Well in my weapon torches that I did for HR base and for CC monthly challenge you can duel wield them without losing the AC bonus, you could easily make more models for them one that invisible. And he/she hand will not be in the air.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               Could someone make me and invisible torch model - preferably in way its as small as possible - I guess that would be better for graphic performance?

Or could someone teach me how could I add a new invisible flag model based on invisible placeable plc_u02?

nvm, solved it differently, thanks for help
               
               

               

                     Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 20 octobre 2012 - 01:06 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_henesua]

               I was wondering about this solution. Did you make a new base item?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               

henesua wrote...

I was wondering about this solution. Did you make a new base item?

yes in the end, i choosed new base item because I wanted to retain the item icon

so new baseitem, then copy all icons and rename them to iit_torch2_XXX and set defaultmodel to the modified torch that is almost invisible (still working on this, its still not perfect)

Anyway, now when I almost got the result, I wonder if its possible to add some visual like fire/frost weapon VFX into this model, could look very cool.
EDIT: this is what I cooked in notepad far from perfect, but useable for sure, I can imagine this to be used in alchemy as a VFX too
               
               

               

                     Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 20 octobre 2012 - 03:19 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_AzurDraak]

               I hope you don't plan to use this with PRC.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               

AzurDraak wrote...

I hope you don't plan to use this with PRC.

i wouldn't dare
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_henesua]

               clever thinking, ShaDoOoW