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Legacy_Stormsong

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I just don't understand Hak Paks
« on: July 07, 2012, 09:12:40 am »


                I have searched and
read numerous posts and tutorials on editing and merging hak paks, but they all
seem to assume some basic knowledge of the subject. Knowledge I don't have.



I would like to edit existing paks that seem to
have bad content, merge hak paks and scan multiple paks for collisions.



Is there a breakdown of what is what in the paks
including 2das? Is a 2da without corresponding item pak of any use?



Is there a from the ground up tutorial in 2 syllable
words that would teach me how to work with these suckers?



Just coming back after many years and this is one
very foggy area.



Help?
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Failed.Bard

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I just don't understand Hak Paks
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 09:27:37 am »


               In terms of a server, a top hak is usually consisting primarily of 2das without any other content.  That allows for the merging of different hak contents to be handled in a single location.  The same could easily be done for a single player module if the other haks need it to "play nice" with each other.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Zwerkules

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I just don't understand Hak Paks
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 10:01:21 am »


               Maybe you'll find something here.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Pstemarie

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I just don't understand Hak Paks
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 11:32:07 am »


               

Stormsong wrote...

I would like to edit existing paks that seem to
have bad content, merge hak paks and scan multiple paks for collisions.


The easiest way to do is to let the toolset do it for you. Under "Module Properties" on the "Custom Content" tab, select add your haks then hit the "Check For Conflicts" button. You'll get a display of all the conflicting resources and which hak they are in.

Alternatively, you can download NWN Explorer and check for issues manually.

Is there a breakdown of what is what in the paks
including 2das? Is a 2da without corresponding item pak of any use?


If your hak hasn't modified any resources of a particular type then the corresponding 2da is not needed. For example, if your hak has no new creatures models then you will not need to include a copy of appearance.2da (the 2da that holds references for all creature models).

Is there a from the ground up tutorial in 2 syllable
words that would teach me how to work with these suckers?


Not really. Generally speaking you can get all the help you need from here - or find someone who may even be willing to walk you through the process or do the work for you.

The top hak that was mentioned in Failed.Bard's post is basically just a group of files that sits on top of the content you are merging. It usually just includes 2da files, but sometimes also houses personal content or fixes to assets included in the lower haks.
               
               

               


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Legacy_Stormsong

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I just don't understand Hak Paks
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 06:49:59 pm »


               Thanks folks. I'll see what I can get done from here.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Lightfoot8

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I just don't understand Hak Paks
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 03:53:58 am »


               

Stormsong wrote...



Is there a from the ground up tutorial in 2 syllable
words that would teach me how to work with these suckers?



Well it is not a tutorial or in 2 sylliable words, but the Aurora Engine Documentationis priceless when it comes to understanding how things work.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Pstemarie

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I just don't understand Hak Paks
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 11:00:33 am »


               

Lightfoot8 wrote...

Stormsong wrote...

Is there a from the ground up tutorial in 2 syllable
words that would teach me how to work with these suckers?


Well it is not a tutorial or in 2 sylliable words, but the Aurora Engine Documentationis priceless when it comes to understanding how things work.


Why didn't I think to link to that - especially when I'm the guy that posted it 'Image