Epic Vrock upgrade (.hak, override, etc.)?

[Legacy_Jugonshi]

               I am not sure if this is the right forum to ask this topic but ..... is there any .hak (or something other) for improving Epic Vrock?

Though this is one of the signature ability of epic Blackguard, I found Epic Vrock is ...... pathetic.

At blackguard L16, it is even WEAKER than usual Vrock (L12 Fighter instead of L15 outsider). Yes the Epic Vrock has more HPs but attacks are weaker and Ref and Will saves are lowered.

Then, even at it's pinnacle, It is just a 28th-level Fighter without any gear. Thus, quite a useless summon comparing to it's master's level. It does not lasts long enough in melee. And it does not have any significant magic abilities. And it has quite low saves which makes it an easy prey for "save of die" spells.

Did somebody try to upgrade this? It takes an epic feat to obtain it. So it should be at least ... somewhat useful.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_MagicalMaster]

               I made a custom version for a testing ground I was making.  I suppose I could throw it on the vault if you wanted - the Vrock improved every few levels.  However, in a low magic environment it might be too powerful (less than +4 at level 40) and in a high magic environment it'll be too weak (say, +7-8 or better at level 40).  It was designed for +5-6 gear at 40 without insane immunities/resistances/etc.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Shadooow]

               Does anyone have vrock hak based on 3.5DnD ? Not need to share spells just stats/etc... would be also interested in this.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Jugonshi]

               >MagicalMaster
>I suppose I could throw it on the vault if you wanted

Oh! Please do that! At least that sounds to be much better than current Epic Vrock which is totally useless at higher levels.

I know it is difficult to balance such summons when players are using various environment. One of the solution could be to make Vrock use equipment. Tony K's AI allows familiars and Animal Companions to use equipment and thus they work both in low-magic and high-magic environment. When the server allows only, say, +5 equipment, those pets can also use only such gears. If the PC can use Uber equipment, the pets can be equipped with similarly powerful gears. But that kind of modification will be difficult as Summon Fiend is totally different from Summon Familiar or Summon Animal Companion.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               All of the summons are mearly creature edits. Find the default version in the toolset, and edit it as you see fit for your world. If your only option is to "edit copy" find the summon script and edit it to reflect the resref of the edited Vrock.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_MagicalMaster]

               

Shin Okada wrote...

>MagicalMaster
>I suppose I could throw it on the vault if you wanted

Oh! Please do that! At least that sounds to be much better than current Epic Vrock which is totally useless at higher levels.

http://neverwinterva...oths-epic-vrock

Have fun.

Lazarus Magni wrote...

All of the summons are mearly creature edits.

Not quite - some summons are supposed to scale (and some places make even more summons scale than simply the default scaling ones).
               
               

               

                     Modifié par MagicalMaster, 09 août 2013 - 06:17 .