Windows 10 and NWN

[Legacy_Ledron Stormsparrow]

               

Has there been any word on how this game handles Windows 10? I already had several problems that (Thankfully) had work arounds on windows 7, but am uncertain on how this next version will handle it. 

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_The Mad Poet]

               

Wait... there is a Windows 10?

 

Wow. I need to get my head unburied from the toolset.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Ledron Stormsparrow]

               Yep!  So I am anxious to update so I can use direct x 12, but still want to enjoy all the older games I play.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Tarot Redhand]

               

Dual boot win 7 & 10 for now. That way, if there's a problem you can still play NwN on win 7. BTW I had no more problems on 7 than I did on vista (ie bink movies don't work for me but that's all).

 

TR

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_The Mad Poet]

               

You know... I never upgrade day 1, and I never buy technology day 1. Learned my lesson years ago. Especially with Microsoft. Day 1 release always has something weird they forgot, or didn't expect, or whatever. I'll wait for them to hotfix the 3000 errors they find before I try upgrading.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Tarot Redhand]

               

Should have mentioned - My advice about dual booting only applies if you buy the full version rather than getting the "free" upgrade and you can only do that (in the UK at least) from 17th August. Oh and take the required specs with a pinch of salt, it may say min cpu of 1ghz or faster but my Q9450 2.66ghz core 2 quad cpu is apparently not supported.

 

TR

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               

I got the blackscreen of death after the first reboot while installing the upgrade. Seems that the nVidia driver (v3.54) they packaged with Win 10 was a beta version and for some reason - at least with Alienware X51s that have an nVidia card, the Win 10 installer assigns your monitor to the Intel onboard HDMI connection - even if its disabled in the bios  '>

 

Apparently, the solution is to enable the onboard HDMI port, unplug your monitor from the video card, plug it into the onboard HDMI port, then install the v3.53 driver from the nVidia website.

 

If you have really bad luck like I did, the installation appears to have crashed before you discover all this, and like a noob you force restart the computer and actually do crash the installation. This forces you to wipe the computer and reinstall Windows 8.1, eventually having to go through upgrade hell all over again. 

 

However, it was a good excuse for me to buy a bigger, HDMI enabled monitor...  '> As soon as that comes in, the whole computer is going to the local computer store and they can do the upgrade.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               

UPDATE - After no small measure of trial and error - including having to use a TV - my neighbor was able to get Windows 10 up and running. I'm still keeping the new monitor though. 

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_3RavensMore]

               

Pstemarie, did you get NWN to run?

 

Edit: Never mind, I didn't see your other post.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Asymmetric]

               

I tried it a few days ago and my conclucion is: They made a new UI, a dumbed down control panel and took a lot of control from the end user. If you like to have control over your system stay with Windows 7.

 

While you can access the old Windows 7 style control panel and even disable automatic updates with group policies (if you have professional version), automatic driver upgrades are a pain. Windows ignores the setting to not update drivers (and kills my touchpad by installing crappy ones). They released a tool to ignore certain updates, but that doesn't seem to work consistently.

 

Enough with the ranting though: I had no problem running NWN or other games out of the box (i.e. starcraft 2, BG2EE). Most workarounds should work fine, as the underlying system doesn't seem much different. Other software however, especially from Microsoft ... well beta at best, but let's not talk about that.

 

Still, I wouldn't upgrade as automatic driver updates could cause problems in the future. Especially with NWN, where you sometimes have to use older drivers. Maybe wait till fall, maybe they overthink their update policy and maybe they fix some of the bugs .. maybe.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pigron]

               

A friendly reminder that NWN will always run native (without emulation) in Linux as it was designed to do so. I have kept a Win7 machine just to run the toolset.

 

In the past, I have had a WINE install and a native Linux install of NWN on a single machine running a single Linux OS, but the toolset was a little too slow still.

With the kind of hardware that is available for reasonable prices, it may now be possible to run the toolset fast enough by installing the game with WINE.

 

Windows 10 just sounds like a huge waste of time so far.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Verilazic]

               

A friendly reminder that NWN will always run native (without emulation) in Linux as it was designed to do so. I have kept a Win7 machine just to run the toolset.

 

In the past, I have had a WINE install and a native Linux install of NWN on a single machine running a single Linux OS, but the toolset was a little too slow still.

With the kind of hardware that is available for reasonable prices, it may now be possible to run the toolset fast enough by installing the game with WINE.

 

Windows 10 just sounds like a huge waste of time so far.

 

Yet another reason to start learning Linux. And yeah, when I got my new computer this year, I just stuck with Win7.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Pstemarie]

               

Running on Windows 10 now without issue - have to use compatibility mode for XPSP3, but it works better than it did when Windows 10 first came out.

               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Lazarus Magni]

               

Again I have no problems running it on Win 10, but yes I do run is in compatibility mode to. Ditto XPSP3