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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2015, 08:43:21 pm »


               

I will download new catalyst drivers and check.


@HellLeeg: first thing I tried. Slightly improves visual bugs, but teztures become ugly. Nonetheless it still lags.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2015, 09:34:41 pm »


               

Tried it on win7 and for some reason there is screen "software stoped working".


Would try to do it on XP, but new codecs are not compatible with it.


Strange, the same installation works on my laptop with Win7 without issues from day 1.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2015, 04:20:41 am »


               


Tried it on win7 and for some reason there is screen "software stoped working".


Would try to do it on XP, but new codecs are not compatible with it.


Strange, the same installation works on my laptop with Win7 without issues from day 1.




 


Hmm... Is the stoped software NWN or the catalyst driver & utilities ? If it is NWN, does the new catalyst driver work with other games ?


 


I am a little short in ideas, but there is a possible culprit i hinted at previously: the motherboard BIOS. In some rare cases a bugged or too old BIOS can create strange problems or crashes with more recent hardware. Perhaps, it could be worth to flash your PC BIOS to the latest version you can find. What motherboard brand and ref. do you use ? 


 


But first, speaking of BIOS related things (if you have not already done it), perhaps you should look in the PC SETUP (advanced menu or equivalent) if there is something conflicting with the Video card. If your mboard has integrated video, don't forget to deactivate it. Look if the PC graphics used by default are assigned to the correct AGP or PCIEx slot. Check the video bus frequency used for the AGP or PCIExpress graphic port is correct. Mark your SLI configuration as "disabled" if you have only one CG card. Look all graphic options you can find, some could boost the CG data transfer speed.


 


CG


 


PS: looking your old nwnconfig.ini, there is a discrepancy between your graphic card memory and the


VRAM entry. If your card has 2 Gb memory (2048 MB) you should mark 2048 and not 4096).



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2015, 06:08:59 pm »


               

NWN is stopped. New driver works with Dragon Age (only thing I have installed now on the machine)


 


BIOS... motherboard was not changed. It is P5K with BIOS - American Megatrends Inc. 1005, 2008-02-25

I am really afraid to mess with BIOS myself '<img'>


 


PC SETUP - what do you mean? In device manager I have only got graphic card and audio/video controllers and I don't think I have got graphic/video doubled..


 


I will try to play with .ini file as well. After running nwconfig it produced error "failed to set version" but runa anyway and now my VRAM in ini is 2048.


 


EDIT: For some reason the language reverted to English.. game still fails to launch (nwmain to be exact.)


I think I will try reinstalling it and restarting computer.


EDIT2: Tried to play it in compatibility mode and VRAM goes back to 4GB... argh I'm only introducing new errors it seems..



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2015, 03:52:37 am »


               

werelynx said:


 


"NWN is stopped. New driver works with Dragon Age (only thing I have installed now on the machine)"


 


- Good, the new driver works (but halas Nwn bricks)...


 


 


"BIOS... motherboard was not changed. It is P5K with BIOS - American Megatrends Inc. 1005, 2008-02-25

I am really afraid to mess with BIOS myself :o"


 


- i understand, BIOS updating can be hard on the nerves... If you decide to try, there is useful help on the mboard manual adequate section (pdf easy to find on Internet. Look for Asus p5k support zone and the latest BIOSes on the driver and tools section) and general BIOS explanations here: https://www.wimsbios.com/


 


 


"PC SETUP - what do you mean? In device manager I have only got graphic card and audio/video controllers and I don't think I have got graphic/video doubled.."


 


- Not the device manager... Talking about the hidden menu you can access pressing repetitively "DEL" key just after you switch ON your computer. You can find a lot of info in the motherboard manual (section 4.2). Yes, your motherboard does not integrate another graphic engine, no need to worry about conflicting GPUs. There are a few graphic related options in your SETUP so... Check "PCIE Frequency" in "Advanced menu/Jumperfree", put it in "Auto" mode. In "North Bridge Configuration" menu,  look for "Initiate Graphic Adapter", choose "PEG/PCI" (PEG is the PCI Express 16X port where you should have seated your VideoCard). In "PEG Port Control" you can use "Auto" or fine tune it with manual settings (this overclocks the graphic card i think, you should have something like "slow, normal, fast"). In "Asus C.G.I. Function" should be "Auto" or "Disabled".


 


Sorry for the awful techno-babble mess. Hoping something can help.


 


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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2015, 12:24:55 pm »


               

Check "PCIE Frequency" in "Advanced menu/Jumperfree"


- has been set to "Auto" already


 


In "North Bridge Configuration" menu,  look for "Initiate Graphic Adapter", choose "PEG/PCI"


- has been set to PEG/PCI already


 


"PEG Port Control"


- has been already "Auto"


 


In "Asus C.G.I. Function" should be "Auto" or "Disabled".


- could only find ASUS O.C. profile, but not this one '<img'>


 


Report from wimsBIOS: http://biosagentplus...e9ee7c745213230


Looks like my BIOS could use update. I will have to think about it, though at this moment I can afford my workstation to go down. :/



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2015, 02:58:49 pm »


               


In "Asus C.G.I. Function" should be "Auto" or "Disabled".


- could only find ASUS O.C. profile, but not this one '<img'>


 




I guess C.G.I has something to do with Crossfire activating. Perhaps it doesn't appear on one GPU systems.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2015, 05:34:21 pm »


               

Maybe this was already mentioned, but with a Radeon, you need to disable shiny water.