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Legacy_NWN DM

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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 04:47:15 am »


               I guess you'll have to give examples of some MP capable games that use cd key checking to verify a "legal" copy is in use that allow multiple instances of it running at the same time in a MP environment before I start to think there's anything wrong here.

Certainly NWN2 is the same way, as is BF3 as a more recent example.

I appreciate you don't like it, but this is the way it is, and has been since NWN came out.
               
               

               
            

Legacy_lassombra

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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2011, 02:29:18 pm »


               Please oh Please for the love of all the deities in the multiverse tell me you did not just use "the way it has always been" to justify denying your rights!  Oh, and I'll give two examples that I've played in the last month:

Star Wars Battlefront (I think Battlefront 2 did use key checking, but not the original) and my personal favorite right now Star Wars Empire at War.

I've played both of those games recently with another copy on the same computer (mostly to test mods I'm working on).

I'm not talking about the age old question of logging into some master server and restricting cd keys there, because that in most games uses an IP/key check, and some will quietly allow two games from the same IP with the same key through (some won't, but some will, don't exactly have a list or anything right now).

A lot of games limit access to THEIR servers to one client per key, and you know what, so be it.  Their server is not part of the package I purchased, if they want to limit access to their server, that IS within their rights, and IS NOT a violation of mine.  However, restricting the way I can play with this game on a single computer IS violating my rights.

If people stood up for their rights more often, we wouldn't have our network rights being trampled in an aimless attempt to stop piracy such as Sopa or Pipa.  Anyone who thinks those would stop piracy is stupid and knows nothing about the internet, but it would certainly stop a lot of legitimate sites overseas where there isn't currently a quality "infringement takedown notice" system.  If any of the sites you like to frequent are overseas and someone posts illegal materials on those sites, under Sopa and Pipa, that site would be blocked in the USA.  Talk about violating rights.  But hey, if you want your rights violated, go ahead, get in line, call your congressmen and tell them that you're perfectly happy making fair use illegal, eliminating your choice of websites to go through, hell, let's tell them to force us to use only RIAA approved search engines, and while we're at it, let's take down IMDB because it has, you know, quotes of copyrighted material on it.  Oh wait, let's go one step further, let's eliminate free speech so that in the future, I can't make this declaration of my desire to keep my rights.

P.S. If any of the above annoys, angers, offends, or in any other way hurts you,  I apologize.  I can get pretty militant when I see my rights being restricted.  Of course, it amazes me when other people DON'T get pretty militant, but in respect to the rights I hold so dear, it is your right (at least for now) to not protect your rights.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2011, 05:48:00 pm »


               OK well this being the internet, I guess we can agree to disagree.  

Regardless of whether or not we agree that it's right or wrong, you are stuck with what the current situation is.  

You can't make multiple concurrent connections to MP with the same cd key(s), regardless of how many computers are in use.

You asked your question, and got an answer you didn't like.  Nobody here can help beyond the suggestions you've received already.

OTT rants aside.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2011, 05:33:04 am »


               As I said, in respect to the rights I hold so dear, I respect your right to A) Disagree with me, that is the basic premise of freedom of speech, and 'B)' Choose not to be as crazily protective of your rights as I am of mine.

I will continue to seek a solution to this problem.
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2011, 09:52:39 pm »


               You've already been provided with the solution (buy another set of cd keys).  You just don't like it.

Anyways, here's hoping you and your friends manage to enjoy the game.  It's a great hobby, and relatively cheap all things considered.