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Legacy_Arnach

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NWN Platinum crashing when opening items
« on: April 18, 2011, 04:43:31 pm »


               Hi all,

I've got a Dell Latitude D630 that's about 3 years old- It has alwasy played NWN Platinum great, but a few months ago I did a clean reinstall of the OS and drivers due to a virus.  Finally got around to re-installing NWN, and now have a problem.  It appears that when I open an object like a chest or bookshelf  (that seem to be empty), the sytem hangs, and generates a Windows error ("NWN has generated an unxected error and needs to close").... Then I get booted, and need to restart.

I've tried several things, including disabling sound, disabling the video card, reinstalling clean, then applying the patch.  No joy.  the easist way I can consistently reproduce the problem is in HOTU, going into the armory at the very begining, to equip my character.

I was considering uninstalling DirectX, then reinstalling Directx 9.0, but beyond that am not sure what else to do.  Again, the game USED TO run great on this laptop, so I am assuming it is an incompatibility with some driver or software on it now.  System spec's below:

Game Version: NWN 1  Platinum 1.69 patch installed.
Game Language: English
Retail or Digital: Retail CD
Processor Manufacturer:Intel
Processor Type:  Pentium dual core, .
Processor Speed:2.6 Ghz
Operating System / Service Pack: Windows XP SP3.
System RAM: 4 gigs
Video Card Manufacturer:  NVIDIA,Quadro 135m.
Video Card Model: Quadro 135m
Video Card RAM: 128 megs
Video Card Driver Version:179.x
Sound Card Manufacturer: unk.
Sound Card Model:unk.
Sound Card Driver Version: )
CD/ROM Type: CD/DVD/RW

Thanks for your help!
               
               

               
            

Legacy_Arnach

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 02:53:48 pm »


               More info:

- i have applied all current patches for Windows XP SP3, and updated DirectX 9c (I think).
- i have tried to run the application as the local administrator, no joy.
- The error I get has the following information:

AppName: nwmain.exe    AppVer: 1.6.9.0    ModName: nwmain.exe
ModVer: 1.6.9.0    Offset: 0005949e

Any ideas?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 05:33:34 pm »


               

Arnach wrote...
More info:
- i have applied all current patches for Windows XP SP3, and updated DirectX 9c (I think).
- i have tried to run the application as the local administrator, no joy.
- The error I get has the following information:

AppName: nwmain.exe    AppVer: 1.6.9.0    ModName: nwmain.exe
ModVer: 1.6.9.0    Offset: 0005949e

Any ideas?

Is it possible for you to revert back to Service Pack 2?  XP should not be so touchy and most use SP3 just fine. Still, I have read legacy posts (not on BSN) complaining about SP3 gliches with NWN.  Maybe worth a shot. Strange.

The only other suspect I would explore is the vdriver.  Unless the version supports OpenGL there can be problems, just never heard of a driver incompatibility causing such a specific quirk.  Suspect any element that may have changed per the new installation as being responsible fo the tainted performance of the game.

Just out of curiosity, does the toolset operate properly?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 05:44:22 pm »


               Thanks-

I was wondering if SP3 was an issue, but all my research indicates it should be fine.  I am not able to revert, so I guess that's moot anyway.

I've 'back-rev'ed' my video drivers to an older version, circa 2009, and still have the same problem.  Bizzare.

I am thinking of picking up a copy of NWN2 and see if I can get that to run on this machine-- Maybe at least then I can get my 'nwn-fix'.  Pity, though- I have so many modules I've wanted to try!
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 10:05:39 pm »


               

Arnach wrote...

Thanks-

I was wondering if SP3 was an issue, but all my research indicates it should be fine.  I am not able to revert, so I guess that's moot anyway.

I've 'back-rev'ed' my video drivers to an older version, circa 2009, and still have the same problem.  Bizzare.

I am thinking of picking up a copy of NWN2 and see if I can get that to run on this machine-- Maybe at least then I can get my 'nwn-fix'.  Pity, though- I have so many modules I've wanted to try!

After thinking about this a bit more, since it appears to be such a specific crash, I wonder if the default OnOpen script might be corrupted.  If you can open the script in the toolset, it should fire up fine.  We'd need a scripter to confirm whether this is likely to cause the observed crashing, though.  Actually, just in case it COULD be, tyry posting this in the Scripter forum and let them know that you have been exhausting all the possible technical causes in this forum.  The more eyes, the more likley we can get a resolution.  Just a suggestion.

The script does check the PC object so I am also wondering if you are testing this with a legacy character or also with a newly created one.  Is your override folder clean?  Not sure if overrides can crash the game, but worth a check. Just trying to exhaust all the more benign possibilities.

And yeah, I've been tempted to upgrade to SP3 but also read it was a one-way upgrade unless you reload the entire OS again.  So if it's not broke I never try to fix it. '<img'> 
               
               

               


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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 12:56:07 am »


               Cool-- Thanks for the suggestion on checking on the script;  I've never used the scripting tool so it will take me some muddling to try and figure that out;  I'll see what I can do.  I also have the (much older but barely used) orgional game CD's, I was also thinking of loading those up and see if that will work.  It would give me some additional info;  maybe my install disks are corrupt.

Yeah, I tend to agree- not worth installing if you don't need it... Unfortunately, this is *ahem* a work computer...
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 02:26:44 am »


               

Arnach wrote...
Cool-- Thanks for the suggestion on checking on the script;  I've never used the scripting tool so it will take me some muddling to try and figure that out;  I'll see what I can do.  

yeah, well... I am a muddler myself.  Here's an experiment you can try:

Make a small module (use a tiny 2x2 area) and place several usable containers on the area. Just make sure they  all have the Usable box checked.  Then insert each of the following script names into the OnOpen text box under the scripts tab.  the "..." button will give you a list of all the available scripts but only if you choose the "All Resources" display in the lower left corner. 

These are some of the most commonly used scripts I've found to try:
nw_o2_bookshelf.nss
nw_o2_boss.nss
nw_o2_classhig.nss
nw_o2_classlow.nss
nw_o2_classmed.nss
nw_o2_classweapon.nss
nw_o2_generalhig.nss
nw_o2_generallow.nss
nw_o2_generalmed.nss


(Each of these use the NW_O2_CONINCLUDE.nss include file.  If THAT include is corrupt it may affect all the above ones from firing properly.)

Also, leave one container with its OnOpen script just blank.

Name each container with a related name like "BOOKSHELF", "GENHIGH", "BLANK", etc.
You'll need to paint a Start Location icon somewhere on the map wherever you want to have your PC spawn at.

Then save/compile the module and either use the Test Module action (under Build) or play it just like any other miscellaneous module. Try to open each container.  I'd try opening the blank one first.  If that crashes the game, the problem is probably deeper than the scripting, I'm guessing.

Hopefully, the toolset will behave for you so you can at least test this out.  If you haven't fooled with the toolset yet consider this as your introduction. '<img'>

Maybe the pros from Dover will show up to help reduce all this muddling about, eh?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 04:52:46 am »


               

Arnach wrote...

More info:

- i have applied all current patches for Windows XP SP3, and updated DirectX 9c (I think).
- i have tried to run the application as the local administrator, no joy.
- The error I get has the following information:

AppName: nwmain.exe AppVer: 1.6.9.0 ModName: nwmain.exe
ModVer: 1.6.9.0 Offset: 0005949e

Any ideas?



Offset 0005949E is tied in with the loading of the items into the chest for display.  (Or at least as far as I can tell).  The only reason I am guessing that it that it is executed only one time when I open a chest with one Item in it.  It is excuted 2 times when I open a chest with two items and so forth.   The only thing I can think of that happens at that frequency on opening a chest is the loading of the Item Icon for display to the GUI.   So it sounds more like a problem with an item or Item Icon more then a problem with the chest.

If you can open the module in the toolset.  I would find the chest  in the toolset and see what items are in it.  

I also like Hipo wonder if you are running any overrides at all.  Or have added any other enhancments to the vinalla game.  

If you have installed the critical rebuild, Are the texture overrides still in your override folder?
               
               

               
            

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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 09:29:16 pm »


               guys,  I really appreciate the help and support!

My install of NWN Platinum is pure vanilla, with just the 1.69 patch applied.  ANd, I agree with Lightfoot8, its an item in the chest, not a chest per se- Some objects like chests I CAN open, but others i cannot (the same ones, faithfully.  

I cannot open the module, as I am causing the problem to recur in the base game.  However, I DID root around in another module using the toolkit, and it seemed to work (not that I know what I am doing)... I was able to open chests, add/remove objects, etc.

I also confirmed that the override folder has the appropriate (I assume) files.

Today, I upgraded my Nvidia drivers to the current version (266 or so), and still had the problem.  So, I uninstalled Platinum, and dug out my OLD orgional Neverwinter Nights disks... Yep, the ones I pre-ordered back in 2002!    I installed this base set, and then applied the patch 1.69.... After playing for an hour and a half NO CRASHES.  Hmmm.

The upside, I've never played the origional story so I have that to look forward to, but I had all these cool custom modules I had planned to enjoy.... ah well...