Last one to find the Easter Egg?

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

                <genuinely...>

A while back, someone sent me a rather scantily clad character model that relied on the default Bioware pelvis texture to keep things clean. I was quite surprised to see her appear au natural. I habitually keep my override folder empty because I'm always trying new things and I can't handle some of the odd interactions I get with a fully-stocked override. So where was the naughty texture coming from?

While doing my own search for Vibrant's elusive Cloak textures and models, I noticed - on my brand-new start-from-scratch laptop, that the supermodels from the OC were showing up in explorer, er, they were showing more than they should.

Excuse me?

Side-tracked <of course>, I spent an hour tracking down every version of pfh0_pelvis_001.plt I had.

Can you guess what was overriding the OC texture? Texturepacks->Textures_Tpa.erf. I tested this by the simple expedient of removing that folder. The naughty-bits went away. 
 So far as I know, this was a bonus folder bundled with Diamond Edition, like the 2DAsource.  

So, I have a couple of questions.

First, although I am no prude, I prefer to keep this machine clean. Did I simply miss the fracas where this scandal was exposed and tittered over? I.e. is this an open secret I just didn't know about?

Second, more interesting from a custom content angle, since when do erfs in a "texturepacks" folder override anything? Do any *other* folders override things? Are some of the bugs and strange behavior we experience related to a much looser resource chain than we (*I*) had assumed?

Edit: Hmmmm, come to think of it, is this where TSL's strange chromed bonnet mystery came from? Chromed in the toolset, fine in game?

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                     Modifié par Rolo Kipp, 31 mars 2012 - 10:54 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_Zwerkules]

               The texture packs are meant to override the other textures because they usually are high res versions of the textures in the main data bif. Why the texture packs have erf as a file extension instead of bif I have no idea. They were always there and were not added as a bonus for the Diamond Edition.
Depending on which option you chose when installing the game there might be different texture packs with different texture quality installed.
None of the original ones have any naughty textures in them though.
I don't have the Diamond Edition, so I can't say if the wrong pfh0_pelvis_001.plt texture was in the Diamond Edition.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <still...>

Well, the Textures_tpa and Textures_tpc that I just now extracted from the Diamond Ed. DVD are clean... and I notice those two erfs (in my install) are the only ones that have a "last modified" date newer than 2003 (2011).

What makes that so puzzling is that, due to hardware issues (I just replaced this HD on this new laptop), I should be dealing with a clean install. I literally installed Diamond Ed. (for the third time!) last week. The only folders I restored from backup were erf, hak, modules, music... Hmmm I think that was it. I *know* I didn't do anything with texturepacks (never have), and I haven't extracted anything else... Not to the NwN folder, anyway.  I think... *shrug*

Well, I'd like to know what carried this payload, but I'm not going to obsess over it.

And that still doesn't answer *how* an erf in texturepacks overrides. Well, not "how", as that's obvious, but *I* certainly wasn't aware that there was a second override folder. Is there a third?

Hmmm, which has precedence? Override or texturepacks?

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[Legacy_Shadooow]

               check this post
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <smoking...>

Veeeeery interesting, ShadoOow. Thanks!

<...from his ears>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_OldTimeRadio]

               AFAIK, there was never any nudity in either the toolset beta content or in the official game content.  I think the sexy in NWN tops out at c_nymph.dds and this ad in Maxim, circa June 2002:


If your texture packs show modification dates of 2011, could it have been something you did then forgot about?
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <repeating all...>

Mar 2011. Which probably means it was installed as part of something. I had to have extracted something that over-wrote those two erfs.

However, I have not specifically done any modifications to the texturepacks folder. Just never messed with it. Still learning creatures & tiles and effects and...

And I haven't run female characters for a long time. Didn't notice anything odd until someone, er, surprised me.

Re the nymph, she actually resides (as a mermaid) on my right forearm representing the element of Water. She's the only tattoo I didn't create from scratch, as I had some of Marc Taro's original sketches to work from :-) I *am* a sailor, after all, born and raised.  :-P

<...the maxims he knows>
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Leurnid]

               CEP has a patch of fluff on one of their succubi, so if you used the CEP installer, that is probably where you got it.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Master Jax]

               There are only two instances in which the Texture packages are changed, I believe. Either you change them manually using software in order to overwrite or delete content, or you re-install them manually or in a clean install. There is no pelvic nudity in the original NWN. And yes, when it comes to original models and textures, Texture packs will always have the top overriding position.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Rolo Kipp]

               <blushing slightly...>

A year ago I was D/Ling anything that moved, looking for tricks and traps of the trade (CC). I "extract to your NwN folder and just approve any overwriting files" a few times. Undoubtedly, one of the social installs was naughty and went where it shouldn't have gone.

This does imply the possibility of improving the textures wholesale if the Voodoo shader ever catches on...

All interesting. To me :-)

<...at his own unsafe d/l practices>