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Legacy_Nic Mercy

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If you were to add the PRC...
« on: March 26, 2015, 05:23:21 pm »


               

... to a fairly balanced persistent world, which classes in the package would you make unavailable without question due to balance issues?


 


I'm curious to see what others find glaringly broken among the classes added.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2015, 07:54:18 pm »


               

Lich/ Demi Lich Is the only one I would remove. The rest would depend on how the world is set up. If the world is set up to be low magic (no items higher than +5) then you would want to look at each class and see what will unbalance the world. If the world is a higher magic world (up to +20 items) then I would use everything but the Lich/DemiLich.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 04:41:21 pm »


               

Lich, Demilich, Baelnorn, Soul Eater, all psionics, monstrous races (illithid, rakshasa, pixie, minotaur...)


 


but now there is more of it, itmight not be enough



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 04:43:41 pm »


               


Lich, Demilich, Baelnorn, Soul Eater, all psionics, monstrous races (illithid, rakshasa, pixie, minotaur...)


 


but now there is more of it, itmight not be enough




 


I'm curious about your reasons for removal of the psionics. What about those classes puts them on your chopping block?


 


Also I was thinking of using the prc in a mod where the top end gear maxes out at +8 (with no perma haste or perma immunity to stuff like death/knockdown/etc) and trying to decide which classes would be out of whack in such a setting.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 07:53:13 pm »


               


I'm curious about your reasons for removal of the psionics. What about those classes puts them on your chopping block?


 


Also I was thinking of using the prc in a mod where the top end gear maxes out at +8 (with no perma haste or perma immunity to stuff like death/knockdown/etc) and trying to decide which classes would be out of whack in such a setting.




seriously unbalanced in short, most spells are totally off, some classes itself are, easier to ban them all than trying to balance it really


 


also some feats are good to disable, the one that allows rdd without bard/sorc, Necrotic Cyst and maybe few more but I dont remember


 


from spells most with drug component or alignmnetn restriction doesnt fit NWN at all too


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 08:15:00 pm »


               


seriously unbalanced in short, most spells are totally off, some classes itself are, easier to ban them all than trying to balance it really


 


also some feats are good to disable, the one that allows rdd without bard/sorc, Necrotic Cyst and maybe few more but I dont remember


 


from spells most with drug component or alignmnetn restriction doesnt fit NWN at all too




 


Glad to get your input. That's good info to have. I don't suppose you might have any clue why any prc mod I load up with NWNX crashes the nwserver program a few seconds after starting? I can't even begin playing with building if I can't get the server up. Only happens with mods that have prc installed. Other mods load fine.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 08:37:11 pm »


               


Glad to get your input. That's good info to have. I don't suppose you might have any clue why any prc mod I load up with NWNX crashes the nwserver program a few seconds after starting? I can't even begin playing with building if I can't get the server up. Only happens with mods that have prc installed. Other mods load fine.




No. Its been a while I used PRC itself. That was before all those spellswords spellbows base classes and dragonborn and dragonwhatever prestige classes were added. Since then I was using only parts of PRC, classes I like the most, script structure they invented...


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 08:57:01 pm »


               


No. Its been a while I used PRC itself. That was before all those spellswords spellbows base classes and dragonborn and dragonwhatever prestige classes were added. Since then I was using only parts of PRC, classes I like the most, script structure they invented...




 


The big thing I wish the prc had done was make its convo character creator separate from the rest of the prc. It's a fantastic system IMO but I have no idea how to isolate that for use with my own custom content. In hindsight it would have been nice if the PRC could have been more modular.


 


And yea the PRC seems to have grown into a pretty unwieldy beast! So many classes feats and spells. It's a bit overwhelming.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2015, 04:24:29 pm »


               

Depending on how you handle epic classes, I would look carefully at the epic spell system. It's one of my favorite features of the PRC, but I can easily see opportunity for it to change the balance depending on how you control access to spell seeds.



               
               

               
            

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2015, 09:31:17 pm »


               


Depending on how you handle epic classes, I would look carefully at the epic spell system. It's one of my favorite features of the PRC, but I can easily see opportunity for it to change the balance depending on how you control access to spell seeds.




 


I actually like the epic spell system since you can control what spells the pc's can access fairly easily. I'm also glad that there's a stand alone version of it so I can incorporate it without using the full prc in a mod if I want to. It always bothered me that each epic spell ate a feat when it was only supposed to be 1 feat needed for epic spellcasting.


               
               

               
            

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2015, 03:20:16 am »


               Easily overlooked reasons why a PRC mod crashes when loaded up with NWN2 :


A missing component serverside.

Missing scripting