What to do with a high level character?

[Legacy_Cloven_Hoof]

               I use the Aielund hakpak, and it says "Final version of the Aielund hakpack, updated with better compatibility with the PrC hakpack" ... alas, therein lies no promise of complete compatibility. And since I wasn't going for any of the PrC classes this time around I might as well disable it for this series.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Cloven_Hoof]

               Although, I really don't know how to turn it off and on again easily. There is an uninstaller for it, since it came with an automatic installer and is like a "program" in the eyes of my Windows 7. But I don't know if I can install it easily again; I remember spending around 5 hours getting it to work. 
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Cloven_Hoof, 08 août 2012 - 02:04 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_MagicalMaster]

               I don't know how the PRC works, but what's in your override folder?  You could try renaming the override folder to "override_prc" or something and making a new, empty override folder and see if that helps.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_HipMaestro]

               

Cloven_Hoof wrote...
Although, I really don't know how to turn it off and on again easily. There is an uninstaller for it, since it came with an automatic installer and is like a "program" in the eyes of my Windows 7. But I don't know if I can install it easily again; I remember spending around 5 hours getting it to work. 

I realize this may fall into the "water-over-the-dam" category but seeing as how I consider myself e4xtremely technically-challenged and neurotic besides... I ALWAYS copy all the NWN folder contents (main, overrides, haks, etc.) to a text file and then do a diff on file names after any custom content installation has been applied then archiving the diff file for future use.  I also include any update dates to existing file names (like 2das & tlk, for instance) as a separate diff for each of those files to locate exactly which lines were modified.
It then becomes a relatively easy operation to revert to any previous condition if there appears to be conflicts.  Naturally, the PRC would be one of the most convoluted reversions, but it still can be done.piecemeal with temp folders without going through the hassle of uninstalling and reinstalling the entire game to reach the pre-PRC status again (A PRC uninstall wizard? Kewl.  Never knew that existed. *g* ).

True neurosis has its price but I've been collecting dividends on the investment and my gaming insanity hasn't intensified since adopting this procedure.  Just a suggestion.

[BTW, I've used SP modules primarily to sanitize/tweak a build concept and make modifications before trying it on a public server.  There's seldom much point to reaching level 40 for SP modules since there are few level 40-based modules (like Infinite Dungeon crawls already mentioned) to use the toon once the max level is reached.  There are, however, many PWs that are set up with persistent challenge areas for level-40 (and above!) toons. Also, a coop group could use one of standard SP modules and set up LAN games with their own DM to increase the challenge real-time for those high-level toons.]]
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               As long as the PRC has not been "injected" into a Mod, it will not be active.

If you have injected it into the Mod, disabling it will be most painful for the uninitiated.

Easier to just download the Mod anew, and use it without the injected PRC.

A note to PRC and other Hak injector users : it is suggested that one make a backup of the to-be-injected Mod beforehand.  Saves time later.

It is possible to play the Aielund Saga with the PRC - it does require work, however.  Merely injecting the PRC will not work.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Cloven_Hoof]

               After I uninstalled the PrC, the problem with Aielund persisted, unchanged. And I couldn't start any other module, since I was suddenly missing some "custom talk table" ... Anyway, maybe it was time that I start from scratch again with a new NWN install. I bet there's some junk in the machinery by now. Among others, some random loot hak I had installed which absolutely did nothing to affect the loot.
Just have to hope that all the haks and stuff I want to use are still available for download from the vault ...
Or perhaps I'll try and fix the missing talk table. But I don't know if I would be able to reinstall the PrC properly (I would like to use it again).
At some point, I have apparently made a backup of my override folder. And that contains 9 files. My current override folder contains 804 files.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               I have already given you the necessary info here - the PRC is a Hak.  As such, it ONLY affects Mods where it has been injected (and nothing else).  You do NOT need to do a new NWN install.  Simply DL the Mod in question again from the Vault - and if you wish, delete the injected PRC version (or move it, whatever).

The PRC does NOT affect Mods where the PRC has not been added.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Cloven_Hoof]

               I downloaded Aielund after the PrC, so thereby it is not affected? The problems I had with save/load in Aielund was and is present, nonetheless. So I don't know what's causing it.

However, by uninstalling the PrC I have now made it impossible for myself to play any form of NWN game with my current file placement. In order to play any other module again, after uninstalling PrC, I guess I have to find some tlk file. I remember I had to change some things regarding a dialog.tlk file when I installed PrC. It had something to do with seeing the names of the new classes on the list when you level up.
I don't know whether I should go for a setup that excludes PrC altogether or if I should try and install it again. It's a fun addition. But I feel that my knowledge, attention to detail, memory and general tolerance are on the decline when it comes to fiddling with a computer game. I have no "hands-on" approach anymore, just a lackluster wish that things would simply work the way I want them to :´)
I found the PrC module updater on my computer and it just says that there is no custom content to install.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_MrZork]

               If you have a backed up Override folder with nine image files (TGA and DDS) in it, they are probably the default override files included with the 1.69 patch. Renaming that folder to Override should fix any issues related to installed overrides.

You might check if there is a backed up version of dialog.tlk in your tlk folder. If so, rename the current dialog.tlk (in case you want it later) and rename the backup as dialog.tlk. Then unzip the Aielund mod files from the archive files you downloaded (e.g. The_Aielund_Saga_Act_I__Nature_Abhors_a_Vacuum.rar, etc.) into your mod folder. Then try Aielund again and see what errors you get. You may want to check your logs folder to see if any of those files have more informative error messages. (Sort them by date to see if any were updated during your latest attempt to play the mod.)

I have not installed PRC, but I suspect there is no need to actually remove it from your system to get Aielund working.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_WebShaman]

               Wait, I think I see the problem here.
You are trying to return to Aielund with your save, right?
Unfortunately, that will not work.
A Neverwinter Night Save saves the information from the game, along with the hak(s), etc. This means that if you try to load a Save from a Mod that had the PRC added (and then removed), it will STILL look for those haks and tlks that were in the Save.
You will have to restart Aielund from the beginning (without the PRC added to it).
This will work.



The PRC is a hak.  That means that it goes in the hak subfolder (and the dialog.tlk in the tlk folder).  In order for it to be used, it has to be added to a mod.  Normally, so that one does not have to have any idea how to do this manually, there is a PRC Module Installer that will do this for one - one just starts it, and then selects the Mod(s) one wishes to add it to, and it does it.

Of course, with Mods that use haks, there can (and probably will) be conflicts.  The PRC Module Installer will try to resolve them, but sometimes it is not possible to do so.  This will result in some aspects of the hak(s) in question not working properly - which can lead to all sorts of problems.

The PRC does NOT affect NWMAIN.EXE - there are some resources that do (I believe that Community Patch does, the NWX stuff from virusman, the camera changer, etc), but the PRC Hak is not one of them.

Also, the PRC does not overwrite any resources of the game that I am aware of.

What I am wondering here is how did you uninstall the PRC? Please post that information first.

Also, it should not affect any part of the game itself as long as it was not injected (re: installed) into that particular Mod - this is what is irritating me here.
I am beginning to suspect that you have deleted necessary resources of the game - or perhaps moved them away from the install path.

The dialog.tlk file you are mentioning IS necessary for the PRC (not only the names of classes, but also feats, spells, and a whole lot of other things are referenced by this).  It is a modified dialog.tlk (which is common in association with haks, btw).

The CEP has one, for example.

If the message "missing resources dialog.tlk" or somesuch comes up when trying to load a Mod, then either :

A - the necessary dialog.tlk is not in the tlk folder.
B - the Mod itself has a dialog.tlk entry that was added to it that is no longer needed, but present still (the need for it).  As such, it is defaulting to A here, although it was removed.

This often happens to Mods where one has removed the PRC from it, but forgotten to remove the dialog.tlk entry as well.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par WebShaman, 15 août 2012 - 11:35 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_vanquishedangel]

                I know this thread may be old but I love "citadel" by jim grimsley. it takes you from lvl 1-35ish and has heavy hack n slash plus a good story line.

Also it implements alot of new things to nwn like an attractiveness system and scaleing to maintain a challange

be warned tho, this module has nudity if you remove your armor and in one quest, also has light flirting both gay, lesbian and straight. (thats where that ends, there is no sex or anything)

if you enter the mod with a character 15+ the first board summons many nasties of high lvl to kill you. Also this mod was designed to be a challange and it will be, so you will die alot. I have played this mod many times and I still find new things.