Sound Support

[Legacy_Trisar]

               My system and game specs.

Game Version: NWN 1 Diamond w/ SOU & HotU, 1.69
Game Language: English
Retail or Digital: Retail DVD
Processor Manufacturer: AMD
Processor Type: Athlon XP 2600+, MMX, 3DNow
Processor Speed: 1.9GHz service rated at 2.4GHz
Operating System / Service Pack: Windows XP SP3
System RAM: 1 GB
Video Card Manufacturer: ATI
Video Card Model: Radeon 7000 SERIES
Video Card RAM: 64 MB
Video Card Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6614
Sound Card Manufacturer: Logitech
Sound Card Model: USB Audio Device
Sound Card Driver Version: 5.01.2600.5512
CD/ROM Type: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S

My game setup.

Resolution: 800x600 60Hz
Texture Pack: 64 meg or higher
Hardware mouse enabled
Dedicated Internet Connection
Sound: Auto Detect

I'm a relatively long-time player of Neverwinter Nights. Had it a few years, in fact. For some reason, however, the game absolutely refuses to play with either my Logitech headset or my onboard sound. Fortunately, I have an expansion sound card, but it looks like it's giving up the ghost.

The problem is as follows: when using my Soundblaster card, the game works fine. I rarely use my onboard sound card, so that isn't an issue, but whenever I use either it or my Logitech USB headset (the Clearchat Pro, wired, if it matters), the game doesn't start at all. The loader menu starts up, but when I press "Play" to run nwmain.exe, I see the "eye" icon, then nothing. Nwmain.exe runs in the background, but otherwise there's no activity. The problem persists even when I run with the sound in "Safe Mode," but not when sound is completely disabled.

I have this exact problem with the original Unreal Tournament as well, but most frustrating to me is that games on both other sides of the technological spectrum--Baldur's Gate and Doom 3--work just fine with the headset.

Is there any way to get Neverwinter Nights to work with my USB headset, or am I going to have to hope I can get another sound card, or that the one I have isn't as dead as I thought?

Many thanks in advance, and if you need further information, I'm more than happy to reply in case it can help me out.
               
               

               

                     Modifié par Trisar, 04 novembre 2010 - 02:55 .
                     
                  

            

[Legacy_HipMaestro]

               I'm only guessing here but it appears some games (like NWN) check the standard ports when they configure the game.  It would be interesting to note how, if at all, the configuration report differs under each of the situations you have described, after re-running the configurator exe.  There may be away to manually adjust that file to coincide with the actual conditions, but unfortunately, I wouldn't know how to do that, never having owned any of the integrated components.. But I know for fact that many of the newer low-cost laptops have gone this route and face similar problems.  Hopefully, this will help steer you closer towards resolution.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Trisar]

               Just in case it might help anyone, here's the report on my PC that can be gotten by running the NWN config utility.

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     |              nwconfig.ini             |
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[OS]
OS=Windows XP v5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3
Result=2
Skip=0
[Processor]
Type=AMD Athlon™ XP 2600+
Vendor=AuthenticAMD
NumCPUs=1
Speed=1923
Result=2
Skip=0
[RAM]
RAM=1024
Result=2
Skip=0
[Video Card]
Type=RADEON 7000 SERIES
VRAM=128
Desktop Resolution=1680x1050
Desktop Color Depth=32
Result=2
Skip=0
[Open GL]
OpenGL Installed=1
OpenGL Version=1.3.1072 WinXP Release
Result=2
Skip=0
ATI Driver=6.14.10.5819
nVidia Driver=6.14.12.5896
[Direct X]
DirectX Installed=1
DirectX Version=DirectX (9.0+) (4.09.00.0904)
DirectX Build=4.09.00.0904
Result=2
Skip=0
[Misc]
Last Run=10/9/2010 10:15:26 PM
Scanning=0
[Version]
Game=1.69
[Registry]
LastInstalledVersion=3
Location=C:\\NeverwinterNights\\NWN\\
StartMenu=C:\\Documents and Settings\\All Users\\Start Menu\\Programs\\Games\\Neverwinter Nights
GUID={7C503E58-B2BC-11D5-978A-0050BA84F5F7}
Version=1.66
Flavour=Retail
Language=0
InstallType=2
Latest Installed XP=2
Latest Installed XP Name=Neverwinter Nights: Diamond Edition
Path=C:\\NeverwinterNights\\NWN\\
[EXE Versions]
Main=8109
Server=8109
Toolset=1.3.36.4
Updater=1.24
Config=2.0.3.6
Launcher=1.0.6.4
HakPak=1.0.2.0
[Drive Info]
C:\\ [FIXED]=31384908 K Free
D:\\ [FIXED]=14180664 K Free
E:\\ [CD ROM]=(Unknown)
F:\\ [CD ROM]=(Unknown)
G:\\ [CD ROM]=(Unknown)
I:\\ [REMOVABLE]=209944 K Free

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     |                 nwn.ini               |
     -----------------------------------------

[Alias]
HD0=.\\
CD0=.\\
OVERRIDE=.\\override
TEMP=.\\temp
MODULES=.\\modules
LOGS=.\\logs
LOCALVAULT=.\\localvault
DMVAULT=.\\dmvault
SERVERVAULT=.\\servervault
TEMPCLIENT=.\\tempclient
SAVES=.\\saves
CURRENTGAME=.\\currentgame
HAK=.\\hak
PATCH=.\\patch
NWMFiles=.\\nwm
AMBIENT=.\\ambient
MOVIES=.\\movies
MUSIC=.\\music
[Sound Options]
Music Volume=0.75
Voice Volume=0.75
SoundFX Volume=0.75
DisableSound=0
3D Provider=DirectSound3D Software Emulation
Environment Effects=0
Number 2D Voices=16
Number 3D Voices=16
2D3D Bias=1.60
Speaker Type=0
[Display Options]
Width=800
Height=600
BitsPerPixels=32
RefreshRate=60
TexturePack=3
SafeMovie=0
FullScreen=1
[Config]
FirstRun=0
Connection=1
NWLoaderDisplayTime=3
[Video Options]
VideoQualitySetting=3
Enable HardwareMouse=1
EnableEnvironmentShadows=1
CreatureShadowDetail=2
EnableGrass=1
EnableFastGrass=0
NumDynamicLights=8
NumShadowCastingLights=3
ShinyWater=0
CreatureWindSetting=2
EnableVisualEffectsHigh=1
EnableSkyboxes=1
AntiAliasing Mode=0
Enable VSync=0
Enable Truform=0
Enable AnisotropicFiltering=0
Grass Far Render Distance=900.0

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     |             nwnplayer.ini             |
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[Game Options]
Memory Level=1
Memory Access=1
TooltipDelay uSec=100000
Enable FloatyTextFeedback=1
Hide SecondStoryTiles=0
Single Player ItemLevelRestrictions=0
Single Player Enforce Legal Characters=0
Client CPU Affinity=0
ClientEntireChatWindowLogging=0
LogMyEmoteUsage=0
In-game Text Swear Filter=0
Visible Cloaks=1
Heartbeat Logging=0
Difficulty Level=2
Log Model Errors=0
Death Logging=0
MouseoverFeedback=1
TextBubbleMode=1
CODEWORD=rangersandhamsters

[Control Options]
Zoom Speed=3.000000
CameraTurnSpeed=1.000000
Enable ScreenEdgeCameraTurn=1
CameraMode=1

[Profile]
ShowMessageOfTheDay=1
Client Port=5120
ShowDDMessage=0
ShowPregenChars=1
JournalPage=0
[Server Options]
One Party Only=1
MaxCharLevel=40
Game Port=5121
Max Players=6
Server Name=Server
GameSpy Enabled=1
Game Type=0
Disable AutoSave=0
CD Banned Behavior=0
Suppress Base Servervault=0
Disallow Shouting=0
ShowDMJoinedMessage=1
Saving Throw Automatic Failure On 1=1
BackupSavedChars=0
Validate Spells=1
Examine CR On Creatures=1
Examine Effects On Creatures=1
Max Hit Points=0
Hide Hit Points Gained=0
Restore Spell Uses On Login=0
Always Reset Encounter Spawns=0
Master Server Authentication Required For Player Login=0
Account validation required during Master Server down times=0
2DA Cache Size=10
[Trap Colors]
FriendlyColor=0,255,0
HostileColor=255,0,0
[Script Options]
Enable Profiling=0
Enable Logging=0
[Banned Ips]
0=
[Banned Players]
0=
[Banned CD Keys]
0=

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     |              autoexec.bat             |
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     |               config.sys              |
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This report, by the way, is the same regardless of if I use my Logitech USB headset, my SB Live! card, my C-Media Audio Device (onboard sound), or Virtual Cable 1 (a simulated sound card, which NWN won't load with, either).
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Trisar]

               In addendum to the above, I removed the nwn.ini file from my game directory, resetting my configuration and causing the config utility to recheck everything. It still does the same thing--loader graphic pops up, then nothing. I've tried disabling all sound devices except the headset with no change, I've tried all the different hardware acceleration settings in Windows... I'm at wit's end here, and if anyone has any other ideas about how to get this to work, please share them. I'm almost about willing to install Linux on here at this point.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Trisar]

               Just in case anyone should have the same problem and notice this, I managed to fix it. Neverwinter Nights now works with my USB headset. The solution was found on the old forums. In your NWN directory, there should be a folder called "miles" with a file named either "Mssa3d.m3d" or "Mssa3d2.m3d." Rename them to "<filename>.m3d.old", i.e., "Mssa3d.m3d.old", and it should work just fine. Leastaways, it did for me.



I'm not entirely sure what the problem is here that caused it, I'm just glad this fix I saw for other people with a "runs with sound disabled" problem worked for me. I hope it works for anyone else, too.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_HipMaestro]

               

Trisar wrote...

Just in case anyone should have the same problem and notice this, I managed to fix it. Neverwinter Nights now works with my USB headset. The solution was found on the old forums. In your NWN directory, there should be a folder called "miles" with a file named either "Mssa3d.m3d" or "Mssa3d2.m3d." Rename them to ".m3d.old", i.e., "Mssa3d.m3d.old", and it should work just fine. Leastaways, it did for me.

I'm not entirely sure what the problem is here that caused it, I'm just glad this fix I saw for other people with a "runs with sound disabled" problem worked for me. I hope it works for anyone else, too.

Good ferreting.  If possible, could you post the link to the original thread in the legacy forum.  The "whys" and "wherefores" may be illuminating for others.
               
               

               
            

[Legacy_Trisar]

               Gladly. The legacy thread is right here: http://nwn.bioware.c...0&forum=49&sp=0



Be advised, this is a ten page thread, there's a lot of various solutions people have tried with the game. Don't give up and quit halfway just because a few of them don't work--the one that worked for me was all the way on page ten.